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Maybe there’s no way of knowing but I was curious about the people that do the live ordinances. I’ve heard it’s always elderly people. Is that because:
Younger people are too busy during the day so it’s down to retirees?
You have to “pay your dues” to earn a gig and that precludes any younger people?
No interest among younger people?
All of the above.
Katzpur, thanks for the laugh this morning. I needed it. First, I totally agree with Katspur. It was almost painful, and after doing it once I never had the desire to do it again. nibbler wrote:
Maybe there’s no way of knowing but I was curious about the people that do the live ordinances. I’ve heard it’s always elderly people.Is that because:
Younger people are too busy during the day so it’s down to retirees?
You have to “pay your dues” to earn a gig and that precludes any younger people?
No interest among younger people?
All of the above.
It probably is all of the above, but mostly the first one. In my experience in various temples the average age of temple workers seems to be about 75. Maybe when I’m 75 and have nothing better to do (which is unlikely) I might consider the gig. Rarely have I seen a temple worker younger than 60.
I personally rather liked the live sessions. Some brethren really got into playing Satan (and in the old ceremony, the Protestant minister). It could be fun. It would be nice if they would keep one live session a week somewhere just for tradition’s sake but I suppose that’s “progress” for you. Don’t know anything about the murals as the SLC temple was not one I visited often but I’ve been around long enough to know that the Church for all its emphasis on its history isn’t really that great at preserving certain aspects of it. Anything that requires expensive maintenance (in my opinion) is bound to go eventually. I think this is why some lovely and interesting buildings with the Church system have been torn down or renovated beyond recognition. You know, I never even thought the murals in the Salt Lake Temple were all that good. Maybe it’s just how murals are, but they always seemed kind of flat and lacking in perspective to me. And somehow, Lucifer picking a virtual apple off a tree and Eve taking bite out of thin air just never did it for me. Some of the other artwork in the temple is excellent, and I suspect that most of it will remain. The Salt Lake Temple interior has such beautiful woodwork. That’s what I hope they’ll decide to keep. Personally, since I work (in non-Covid times) in Salt Lake City tourism, I’m just excited for the open house where non-LDS people from all over the world will be able to go through the temple. I am really looking forward to that!
I my life time, the world seems to be trying to be more productive. In general with the use of robotics, automation & computers. In manufacturing there is an emphasis on through put. This means how fast can we move material through the mfg process with
the least amount of effort, movement & cost. I’m not surprised that this same attitude seems to follow us through the temple too.
Maybe this way they can justify not building more temples in the future. Maybe the next change is virtual endowments?
Minyan Man wrote:
Maybe the next change is virtual endowments?
When COVID hit I did have the thought, “What if they just dedicated a temple that was a server farm, and everyone could log in remotely?”
:think: Arrakeen wrote:
Minyan Man wrote:
Maybe the next change is virtual endowments?
When COVID hit I did have the thought, “What if they just dedicated a temple that was a server farm, and everyone could log in remotely?”
:think:
That’s really been the game plan in thia crisis – force everyone online for everything… The big lie is that doing anything on a screen is much like attending in person.
The main problem here is privacy. Even though the script of the endowment etc is available outside official channels, the church still doesn’t like to publicize it. I suppose they could set up a room in stake centers to deal.with this, in remote areas.
Throughout church history there have been adjustments to accommodate for the performance of temple ordinances without the availability of having a temple. Here are a couple that come to mind:
– before the Nauvoo temple was finished, baptisms for the dead were performed in the Mississippi river.
– before the SLC temple was finished, they had the Endowment House.
The church is always making adjustments & accommodations. Maybe virtual ordinances aren’t so far fetched.
Quote:Many changes are being made to ensure a familiar, uplifting experience for members who attend that temple.
Ugh. I might be interested in seeing a unique temple. I have far less interest in seeing the familiar. I can go to the McTemple down the road if I wanted that experience.
I can appreciate the effort to support multiple languages.
nibbler wrote:
Quote:Many changes are being made to ensure a familiar, uplifting experience for members who attend that temple.
Ugh. I might be interested in seeing a unique temple. I have far less interest in seeing the familiar. I can go to the McTemple down the road if I wanted that experience.
I can appreciate the effort to support multiple languages.
It seems a very Philistine stance to take. People are interested in the LDS because it is different and there should be variety in that.
As for multiple languages, I’m all for that, but I suspect the main demand in the SLC temple will be for English with Spanish a distant second. (ASL is a slightly different matter, and not one of numbers.)
My very brief view: I understand eliminating the live actors – completely.
Removing the artwork hurts – deeply. I disagree passionately.
SamBee wrote:
As for multiple languages, I’m all for that, but I suspect the main demand in the SLC temple will be for English with Spanish a distant second. (ASL is a slightly different matter, and not one of numbers.)
I’m not so sure Spanish is a far distant second. The Latino population of the area is upwards of 12-15% and as I recall most temples there have several Spanish only sessions during the week. Even some outside Utah have Spanish only sessions (Washington DC does/did). Some of those temples in Utah also cater to Pacific Islanders and have specific sessions for Tongans and Samoans. ASL is a different story. My understanding is the film has ASL built in but it needs to be “turned on” for the session when they’re informed there’s a hearing impaired person. The latter has happened a couple times when I have been, including our “local” small temple – and I don’t go that often. Also, there are individual devices in each of the temples that have different languages which are always available for the asking.
I am incredibly disappointed about this as well. I had the privilege to attend a live session in the SLC temple with my wife a few years ago. I loved the artwork; I loved the live performance. Up until this announcement came out, it was a goal of mine to be a part of the live cast for either the SLC or Manti temple. However, I understand the urgent need for more space so that more temple work can be done. This may be silly of me but, insofar as the artwork is concerned, I am choosing to take comfort in the following passage portion:
Quote:… whatsoever you record on earth shall be recorded in heaven …
—D&C 128:8
The artwork was a record of sorts: depictions of God’s handiwork. I hope to see it whole sometime in the next life.
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