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As some of you may have noted, my bishop and I don’t usually see eye-to-eye. Last night he mentioned that once his son is old enough there is no reason for him to wait until he has graduated from high school before getting endowed.
He specifically mentioned that he isn’t taking gym classes so locker rooms aren’t an issue.
This just seems totally wrong to me, but I guess is a result of this whole younger missionary age thing.
The son in particular mentioned how much he would like to be able to perform baptisms for the dead on the monthly youth temple trips. He will be endowed, so there is nothing there preventing him.
Needless to say, I’m not wild about this idea either, and will do what is necessary to make sure that if that does happen, it doesn’t happen with my daughters.
I hope he has a good Stake President that would give he good coucil about this issue. IMO, most HS kids aren’t ready for this. I know I wasn’t.
Even if he didn’t go to gym class, the other kids will know some how.
rebeccad wrote:The son in particular mentioned how much he would like to be able to perform baptisms for the dead on the monthly youth temple trips. He will be endowed, so there is nothing there preventing him.
Needless to say, I’m not wild about this idea either, and will do what is necessary to make sure that if that does happen, it doesn’t happen with my daughters.
Wow, good point, I hadn’t considered that. I wouldn’t be thrilled either about a male peer baptizing my young women aged daughters in a fairly intimate setting. Hopefully good counselors or a thoughtful stake president will issue some guidelines. I think it’s appropriate for parents to raise this with their bishop also. Sort of reminds me of a rule on my mission that when we went to the temple we couldn’t do sealings. It got our minds thinking…
According to the bishop, the Stake President has no problem with him getting his endowment as early as the bishop decides is appropriate. As a general rule, I don’t like it – and I would go with the traditional approach (ironic, I know) of waiting until shortly before leaving on a mission. With some students, I would have no problem due to maturity levels – but not with most.
I don’t want anyone telling me what is or isn’t acceptable for my kids in regards to spirituality. I, with the help from the gods, got it covered.
Would I do it? Nope…But, I don’t really believe in Mormon temples, so….means nothing.
I probaly will just give this guy the benefit of the doubt.
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Definitely not a good idea. I know what kids face in high school these days and I think it is awfully risky if you truly believe that moral sins are “next unto murder” for an endowed member. I don’t personally don’t buy it and find the churches stand on it completely silly…..but thats another topic (and considering how the polygamy topic is rollling best should not start one on sexuality here….NOM on the other hand… 👿 )johnh, just so you know, there are at least two threads in our archives explicitly about the whole sexual sins and murder question, and it is mentioned in probably over a dozen threads at some point in the discussion. If you want to find one of them and comment on it so it’s current, you’re welcome to do so. Search for “next to murder” in the search function at the top, right of the main page. I also wrote about it directly on my own personal blog:
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Quote:I don’t want anyone telling me what is or isn’t acceptable for my kids in regards to spirituality.
I have no problem with the concept of communal “standards”, but, when it comes down to it in specific cases, I agree with cwald’s comment. People, including children, vary so radically, in so many ways, that I don’t want hardcore rules dictating “should” and “should not” with regard to this issue and lots of others like it.
I think it really depends on the person but I see so much pressure put on some kids by parents and leaders and not to mention the whole masturbation issue that some kids are almost forced to lie to be accepted by their parents and leaders. We have had several kids in our stake go on missions come home early because of worthiness issues but the pressure put on them before the left and the embarrassment of confessing was too much. It is so hard to know how to handle the the world our kids face. I was endowed last year, and I still find the whole issue a bit scary. What if I do fail? I wasn’t really worried about this individual’s circumstance, as much as the general idea. How do you feel about high school students being endowed? Sambee has a good point, it is a lot of responsibility to carry for the rest of your life.
Quote:How do you feel about high school students being endowed?
I don’t like the idea, but, again, I’m willing to make exceptions.
We had neighbors growing up who were best friends of my parents. They were wonderful people and parents. They got married in the temple when he was 23 and she was 16. She dropped out of high school to get married in the temple.
Without knowing that particular couple, I would have opposed that situation passionately – and, in general, I do oppose it. Knowing them, I am open to exceptions.
Yes, there are exceptions to everything. I know a couple who married at sixteen, have several children, and have regretted nothing in the past couple of decades… In general, i don’t think HS students should be endowed either. Church policy states that a prospective missionary can only receive his endowment
afterhe receives his mission call. I don’t know if this has been updated since the missionary age change. I guess that if you time it right you can get a mission call before you graduate. I also don’t think a young man baptizing young women is a good idea. I think it can create this weird intimacy that shouldn’t be there.
When my wife and I were dating we went to do baptisms for some names I prepared. The Mount Timpanogos temple wouldn’t let me baptize her even though we were both endowed RMs. I couldn’t be in the room when she was baptized. But I’m sure that was local policy.
When I was in the MTC my companions and I would baptize each other in the Provo temple and that was great fun.
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