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    wayfarer wrote:


    now after 180 years, the church has painted itself into a corner, with hard-line dualistic statements of ‘its all true or the biggest fraud in history.’ It’s neither. The ‘truth’ of the church is in restoring the idea that god continues to reveal his will through the heart and mind of those who listen to that still, small voice. God is not to be found in the creeds and orthodoxy, but rather, in the 1:1 personal experience that we call ‘testimony’. And this ‘testimony’ is not the rote glove-version, but rather, the discovery, line upon line, and precept upon precept, that god is nearer to us as humans than we think. The ‘truth’ of the church is that we have a divine nature, explained by a plan of salvation that uniquely lays out pre-mortal existence and the possibility that all may be in a realm of glory. These things cannot be proven, and truly are unknowable in logical terms, but they can be felt. To know that god is one of us leads us to a higher knowledge that we can be one with god in many unique ways. God is not so distant, but as one of us, fully knows our weakness and has more compassion than we possibly can realize.

    Best quote I’ve read so far on this thread.

    As far as my experience with apologetics – the ones offered by members have always made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Like on my mission when my companions would try and teach investigators that the reason polygamy was instituted was because there were so many widows that needed to be taken care of. FAIR and FARMS helped me get a start to overcoming problems with historical issues, but I wasn’t really in crisis mode when I was last into reading those. I can definitely see how their tendency to give acknowledge but ultimately dismiss the difficult facts can be an annoyance to some.

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    leavingthecave25 wrote:

    Best quote I’ve read so far on this thread. ….

    Absolutely one of the best quotes that I’ve read on this board.

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    Amen, wayfarer.

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    cave, cwald, ray, thanks.

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    Wayfarer was speaking as a prophet and not as a man in that previous post.

    like +1, and a bow to Wayfarer.

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