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Ann wrote:LookingHard wrote:hawkgrrrl wrote:
I know E. Oaks is not always a favorite among the online Mormon crowd, but he is very in favor of equal pay for women and getting rid of gender discrimination in the work place. It’s possible some of the Q15 don’t hold such egalitarian views (the Proclamation raises an eyebrow), but the Proc can be viewed as helping women by domesticating men. Mormon men are, on the whole, more “domesticated” than other conservative Christian men from what I can see. I would stack up their dish-doing and diaper-changing against any Evangelical man any day of the week.
I live in the south and there was a big deal about a movement called “Promise Keepers” that had Christian (mainly evangelical’s) saying they committed to do certain things.I looked at it and thought, “well, that would be a step down from what I am already doing.”
LookingHard – I agree! When we lived in that area my husband’s friend invited him to a Promise Keepers event and we weren’t keen on the idea, partly for the reason you give.
Re-reading my words I noticed they could be taken as quite boastful. But some of their promises to keep were like, “I will not go to topless bars or watch rated X movies.” Topless bars? I stay away from Hooters! Rated X movies, try “only the ‘good’ PG-13” movies! OK I did watch Saving Private Ryan, Schindler’s List, and The Passion of Christ (my wife only thought Shindler’s List was appropriate to watch and gave me a hard time about Private Ryan). And feeling like that was being “edgy”.Promise Keepers also had/has a horrible success rate in preventing teenage pregnancy and STD’s – of limiting sexual intercourse and its various outcomes. The rates for those things among that population were among the worst of any religiously identifying group, in all the studies I’ve seen. (Okay, it was only two studies, but it was all of them I saw.) I think there is a fundamental lesson in there about the result of hyper-focus on anything.
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