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    I feel bad even asking this question, but is anyone else having a hard time believing the objective accuracy of Forgotten_Charity’s description of his background?

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    The things done at home were ideas of a church tough love group given by bishops, HC, and sometimes the SP.

    I know there are extremists in the Church, but to have multiple Bishops, High Councilors and “sometimes” the Stake President not only condone but suggest what he says was done to him in his youth (not the tough love concept, but the actual things he listed), especially since he says some of the things were done at church . . .

    I know he has serious psychological issues, based simply on his posts over time here, and I’m wondering now just how serious those issues are.

    I’m concerned that F_C was abused terribly in his youth by his parents (perhaps with counsel of an individual Bishop or stake leader to exercise “tough love” – not realizing exactly what his parents were doing – and that his parents told him something like, “Our church leaders told us to do this – administer tough love.”), but he can’t blame his parents for that abuse – so he has created a surrogate abuser (the entire local church leadership collectively) to shift the blame. I might be completely wrong about that. Multiple early church leaders might have been tough love sadists who worked together as a group and insisted on the type of abuse he describes. I know that’s possible, but the extent of the abuse (both the types of abuse and the multiple leaders alleged to be involved) is really hard to believe – again, especially because it involves some really egregious things done at church, not just in the home. I wonder if leaders took “tough love” actions at church that were wrong but not like the things he lists in his post – and if he lumped all of it together as the exact same thing and assumed everyone was collaborating on everything that was done to him.

    Anyway, there is absolutely no way for any of us to have this conversation with him in this forum, but I wanted to get it off my chest and get your input. Maybe it’s just my forum protection impulse kicking in, since I’m not a cynic or skeptic by nature. I just am concerned about whether or not what he is sharing represents reality, no matter how strongly he believes it.

    That said, I have no problem with the post or the responses from everyone in the thread. I’m not asking for any kind of action; just wanted to share my concerns above.

    #280179
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    Perhaps he is prone to exaggerating his past to fit his emotions, and really distorting the facts in the process…not that anyone would ever know or be able to prove with such anonymity on the website.

    If it gets to apoint it makes the church look too bad…we might PM him to ask him to consider if his memories are fact based or emotion based, that he may unintentionally be making church leaders look bad with exaggerating tough love.

    Only if it gets to a point something needs to be said. If he is hurting and struggling, we don’t need to nit pick on accuracy of details, IMO.

    #280180
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    Amen. This just a private message, Nothing more. If it gets too bad, I think we simply thank him for the chance to talk about it, encourage him to continue to get professional help and close the thread. No need to question him in any way.

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