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Well, how old are YOU, GB? 😆 Old-Timer wrote:Well, how old are YOU, GB?
😆 Old enough to know better and young enough to not care, by gadfry.
🙂 I haven’t read all of the comments, but thought I’d add one more quick one… A woman must cover her shoulders and her thighs, but some of the G tops are cut into a V-neck…which leads to cleavage. Now, me? I have little cleavage to show, but am fully aware of my low-cut tops exposing what I do have…when I CHOOSE to show it off. Other women, however, can safely wear their G’s and their clothing and can claim “modesty” while fully exposing their line of “boob”.
I think there is a disconnect there.
:crazy: A more eccentric take. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread208687/pg1
Quote:Morals and Dogma: Consistory: XXXII. Sublime of the Royal Secret pg. 850-51
The SQUARE is an instrument adapted for plane surfaces only, and therefore appropriate to Geometry, or measurement of the Earth, which appears to be, and was by the Ancients supposed to be, a plane. The COMPASS is an instrument that has relation to spheres and spherical surfaces, and is adapted to spherical trigonometry, or that branch of mathematics which deals with the Heavens and the orbits of the planetary bodies.
The SQUARE, therefore, is a natural and appropriate Symbol of this Earth and the things that belong to it, are of it, or concern it. The Compass is an equally natural and appropriate Symbol of the Heavens, and of all celestial things and celestial natures.
You see at the beginning of this reading, an old Hermetic Symbol, copied from the “MATERIA PRIMA” of Valentinus, printed at Franckfurt, in 1613, with a treatise entitled “AZOTH.” Upon it you see a Triangle upon a Square, both of these contained in a circle; and above this, standing upon a dragon, a human body, with two arms only, but two heads, one male and the other female. By the side of the male head is the Sun, and by that of the female head, the Moon, the crescent within the circle of the full moon. And the hand on the male side holds a Compass, and that on the female side, a Square.
It is the great, fertile, beautiful MOTHER, Earth, that produces, with limitless profusion of beneficence, everything that ministers to the needs, to the comfort, and to the luxury of man. From her teeming and inexhaustible bosom come the fruits, the grain, the flowers, in their season. From it comes all that feeds the animals which serve man as laborers and for food. She, in the fair Springtime, is green with abundant grass, and the trees spring from her soil, and from her teeming vitality take their wealth of green leaves. In her womb are found the useful and valuable minerals; hers are the seas the swarm with life; hers the rivers that furnish food and irrigation, and the mountains that send down the streams which swell into these rivers; hers the forests that feed the sacred fires for the sacrifices, and blaze upon the domestic hearths. The EARTH, therefore, the great PRODUCER, was always represented as a female, as the MOTHER,–Great, Bounteous, Beneficent Mother Earth.
On the other hand, it is the light and heat of the Sun in the Heavens, and the rains that seem to come from them, that in the Springtime make fruitful this bountifully-producing Earth, that restore life and warmth to her veins, chilled by Winter, set running free her streams, and beget, as it were, that greenness and that abundance of which she is so prolific. As the procreative and generative agents, the Heavens and the Sun have always been regarded as male; as the generators that fructify the Earth and cause it to produce.
The Hermaphroditic figure is the Symbol of the double nature anciently assigned to the Deity, as Generator and Producer, as BRAHM and MAYA among the Aryans, Osiris and Isis among the Egyptians. As the Sun was male, so the Moon was female; and Isis was both the sister and the wife of Osiris. The Compass, therefore, is the Hermetic Symbol of the Creative Deity, and the Square of the productive Earth or Universe.
The COMPASS, therefore, as the Symbol of the Heavens, represents the spiritual, intellectual, and moral portion of this double nature of Humanity; and the SQUARE, as the Symbol of the Earth, its material, sensual, and baser portion.
For the Apprentice, the points of the Compass are beneath the Square. For the Fellow-Craft, one is above and one beneath. For the Master, both are dominant, and have rule, control, and empire over the symbol of the earthly and the material.
I’ve pretty much provided here undeniable proof that the Freemasonic symbol of Square and Compass is very much indeed a sexual act.Quote:Star of David, Seal of Solomon Hindu Shaktona equivalent to the symbolism in ritual magic. The Shatkona is the combination of the Shiva kona (trikona, triangle), the symbol of the God Shiva, representing the element of fire, and the Shakti kona, representing the element of water. Together, they represent the union of male and female, and the heart chakra.
[img]http://i48.tinypic.com/11r845t.jpg [/img] QuestionAbound wrote:I haven’t read all of the comments, but thought I’d add one more quick one…
A woman must cover her shoulders and her thighs, but some of the G tops are cut into a V-neck…which leads to cleavage. Now, me? I have little cleavage to show, but am fully aware of my low-cut tops exposing what I do have…when I CHOOSE to show it off. Other women, however, can safely wear their G’s and their clothing and can claim “modesty” while fully exposing their line of “boob”.
I think there is a disconnect there.
:crazy: Excellent point. I haven’t been wearing my garments long (recently married), but I’ve heard all sorts of justifications and suggestions for which type of garments to wear with certain outfits. Even with the correct sizing some garments leave a hearty helping of cleavage and there are many women that are perfectly comfortable showing.
In reply to the post about nt wearing them in Georgia… While living in Asia this summer it was over 40C (100F??) with very high humidity. Garment tops instantly became sweat vests, which was handy for avoiding armpit sweat patches (gross!) but didn’t seem to be entirely in the spirit of ‘not defile it.’ MissEyre wrote:Even with the correct sizing some garments leave a hearty helping of cleavage and there are many women that are perfectly comfortable showing.
And, there are many men that are perfectly comfortable looking at said cleavage !!
Sheldon wrote:MissEyre wrote:Even with the correct sizing some garments leave a hearty helping of cleavage and there are many women that are perfectly comfortable showing.
And, there are many men that are perfectly comfortable looking at said cleavage !!
Just to make it clear, are we talking about front or back cleavage here? Plenty of back cleavage around, but not to everyone’s tastes!
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