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All of this sounds so pharisiacal (sp?)… Quote:Mike wrote:There was a time when I thought that one of the roles of wearing the garment was to be seen by other believers.
If you see the garment under the white shirt you know he’s one of us.
He can be trusted. Or, he is worthy to go to the temple & must be one of the good guys.
It is like a secret hand shake.
See, when we are visiting a ward we make sure (usually it happens because someone forgot) that at least one of us is wearing non-standard church clothes (jeans, tennis shoes or any kind of pants on women), and either have old and battered scriptures or cheap scriptures, we do this so people will be nicer to us, and let us do what we want (leave early, not go to classes or accompany our kids to class.)
In our experience people are nicer and more understanding when they think you are just returning to church, inactive, or an investigator, and they will assume that quickly if you aren’t wearing the “uniform”
Quote:Not in the construction world…if you know the guy you are doing work for is LDS then you would watch out and try to get paid up front because you were likely to get screwed.
That’s an unfair potshot, johnh. Sure, it happens, unfortunately, but it’s not pervasive or anywhere near “standard operating procedure”.
johnh wrote:Mike wrote:There was a time when I thought that one of the roles of wearing the garment was to be seen by other believers.
If you see the garment under the white shirt you know he’s one of us.
He can be trusted. Or,
he is worthy to go to the temple & must be one of the good guys..
Not in the construction world…if you know the guy you are doing work for is LDS then you would watch out and try to get paid up front because you were likely to get screwed
I find that to be true with me especially if they are the ones to bring up the church and they try to make that an advantage to their proposal. I had a guy try to sell us new window once and when he found out we were members he said he would make “special arrangements” for us. When he told us are new windows in a newer addition did not meet the “new code”, I had a pretty good idea what his “special arrangement” would be. We live on the left coast and every summer we get a crop of returned missionaries selling something door to door and once they see something indicating we are LDS they use the church connection to pitch their product. It bugs the heck out of me.
I also am bothered by anyone who uses their church membership to try to sell stuff to other members (and I hate the religious kitch that gets sold in many stores, regardless of denominational / religious focus), but that’s different than Mormon businessmen shafting people as a result of being Mormon – and it’s no more obvious than businesses in the South that advertise their Christianity openly and forcefully as a way to get customers. It also is important to point out that the Church itself tells members not to use access to ward directories for business purposes. (not the same thing, but relevant, nonetheless) I really don’t like it when it happens, but it just isn’t “likely” – and it’s important to not let emotions and personal experiences make something appear to be pervasive when it’s not.
It is an unfair generalization. Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
I am sorry to hear about that stuff, using the church to get deals or take advantage, but I think it’s more indicative of clans or groups. I spend a lot of time with evangelicals, and they do the same things. Connect up with believers, check if your a believer, keep an eye out, etc. My guess is – it’s more related to the poorer side of human nature – and can be found in lots of areas. It’s still wretched when it happens. On the thread about women wearing pants to church, I mentioned something about men wearing kilts, which is practically unheard of in sacrament meetings etc… dances and pipe bands yes, but not church meetings, very uncommon. I’d like to see someone wear a kilt to try and enter the temple.
My hunch is that this is something to do with garments. The correct length for a Scottish kilt is round about the knee.
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