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October 6, 2013 at 12:27 am #274800
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GuestL. Tom Perry Talks about a primary teacher who grilled them on requirements for graduating primary and getting to priesthood. Memory of an class outing if everyone could memorise the 13 Articles of faith. They chose a place in the mountains to hike to. Their elderly teacher had more trouble than the kids getting there.
In the mountains she taught them her final primary lesson.
Memorising the articles of faith would mean nothing if they didn’t develop a testimony of the doctrines found within them.
Goes on to describe some of the doctrines found in the articles of faith.
1. Godhead
2. Responsibility
3. Saviours mission
4. Principles and ordinances
… (didn’t do the others)
Scriptures teach us a standard of truth. True doctrine comes from God and is in the gospel of the Saviour. False doctrine comes from Satan.
“All scripture is given by inspiration and is profitable for instruction… (etc)”
This doctrine is like a batter in a cell-phone. Without a battery the phone is useless. If a church does not teach the true doctrine it is useless. (Hmmm. I’m glad he doesn’t expand much farther on that one).
5.
Talks about 1829 restoration. Wanted to know the correct manner of baptism and who had the authority to baptise. John the Baptist appeared and gave them the authority to baptise. Priesthood was restored to the earth. This gives the authority to act in the name of God. Priesthood had to be restored before the true church of Jesus Christ could be organised.
6-9 are guides for life.
A source of guidance are our church leaders (in addition to the scriptures).
10. Missionary work
To me he implies that the ‘respect for other to worship according to the dictates of their own conscience’ comes down to a simple dichotomy between accepting or rejecting the gospel that we take to them. Another ‘harrumph’ from me.
Study the deep meaning in the articles of faith.
Interesting (and perhaps unintentional) little aside:
The day had got late, the teacher was old and they had to scramble to get back off the mountain with concerns of being lost in the gathering darkness. The drama of the events meant the experience the lesson.
October 6, 2013 at 12:38 am #274801Anonymous
GuestGerald Caussé – 1st Cllr of Presiding Bishopric. Another European!!! Hooray. (French).
Talks about his calling leading to travel around the world. The church is global and universal.
The membership of the church is increasing in its diversity. Our heritage transcends our differences and makes us brothers and sisters.
“Ye are no more strangers but fellow citizens.”
Stranger comes from latin word ‘outsider’ (whether culture/religion/opinions).
We sometimes feel like outsiders. We are commanded to care for people who appear to be strangers.
“Love strangers as thyself”
Talks about the Saviour going into groups of strangers and rejected people and mixing with them and praising them.
Universal and perfect love.
In this church there are no strangers and outcasts. Our knowledge should help us be more inclusive.
Quotes Les Miserables. Jean val-Jean arrives in a village as a released convict who is rejected by everyone in the village. He collapse at the front door of the town’s Bishop. “This is not my house, it is the house of Jesus Christ…. you are welcome. I don’t need to know your name… you are called ‘My brother.'”
Everyone in our church should feel at home and welcome.
Globalisation means the earth is becoming one village. Other people arriving from other areas into our neighbourhoods. It is likely that the next person that joins your ward is not from your circle of friends. This person may be different through lifestyle/background/relgion/race. We should welcome them with love and kindness.
Build unity. Unity is not achieved by ignoring people who are different. We must welcome those who are new and have particular needs.
Welcome them without prejudice. Make people to feel welcome.
No one is a stranger to our heavenly father. God is no respecter of persons. I was a stranger and ye took me in. When saw we thee a stranger? Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren ye have done it unto me.
I like this guy, had never heard of him.
October 6, 2013 at 12:48 am #274802Anonymous
GuestRandy D. Funk, Seventy Just completed service as a Mission President in India.
Talks of a convert from Nepal (a convert of 2 years previous). He had limited English. He arrived with casual clothes. He found the work challenging and felt homesick. He worked hard and now contributes to the church in India.
My comment: I hope (hope) that as the church grows in places like India and east Asia they will gain the influence of the Asian cultures who celebrate and embrace ambiguity and metaphor being more important than literal history.How will you be a great missionary?
Wherever you go, a member of the 12 recommended that assignment and called by a prophet.
Be Humble, be obedient, follow the spirit. If you are obedient you will feel the spirit. Without the spirit you will never succeed. Also started talking about the importance of being morally clean and virtuous.
Knowledge of truth comes through obedience (??!!!)
(Lost interest in this one a little. I’m taking a quick break).
October 6, 2013 at 12:52 am #274803Anonymous
GuestSo that’s the first hour done. I would endorse the second talk out of three. I’d give the first and third a wide berth. The first presidency are up next. That means President Uchtdorf and then President Eyring. Anticipation…
October 6, 2013 at 12:54 am #274804Anonymous
GuestIn UK ‘Randy’ means ‘Horny’ So to my British ear the name of the third speaker is “Horny Funk”
Yep… they 14 year old inside me is not buried very deep.
:lolno: :clap: October 6, 2013 at 1:11 am #274805Anonymous
GuestPresident Uchtdorf Went skiing with 12yo grandson. Crashed, fallen and couldn’t get up. Physically felt fine, but ego a little bruised. Kept goggles on so others didn’t recognise him.
Began to wonder how he would be rescued. His grandson came over and said “You can do it now.” Instantly I stood. It seemed impossible but was possible when a 12yo boy said “You can do it.”
There may be times when continuing on our own may be beyond our own ability.
When we feel we cannot rise up we just need someone to say “you can do it now.”
Don’t give up if you have failed a time or two or three or four. Through discouragement people sometimes persue other endeavors. They die with their music still inside them.
Our destiny is not defined by the number of times we stumble but the number of times we rise up and move forward.
The words of prophets are part of the map. They tell us how to rise up and get back on track.
Hopeful message that mankind can repent, change course and get back on the path of discipleship.
Don’t be comfortable with weaknesses. There’s a difference between the sorrow that leads to repentance and the sorrow that leads to despair.
Godly sorrow inspires change.
Heartfelt regret are often painful but leads to change. When guilt leads to self-loathing it is impeding not promoting our repentance.
There is a better way, let us rise up. We have a champion. The lamb without blemish. He took our burdens upon his shoulders. When we walk in the path of discipleship.
Repentance means turning our heart and will to God. True repentance brings the assurance that we can do it now.
The adversary confuses us about who we really are. We want to do our favourite manly hobbies. We want to become Christlike but we also want the guy who cuts us off in traffic a piece of our mind.
The adversary makes us see the commandments as something forced upon us. See these as choices of who we are what we want to become we have a greater chance of succeeding.
Keep sites on higher goals will help us become kinder fathers/husbands.
We have all experienced falling. That’s what we mortals do. But we can learn through failure and become better and happier as a result.
We pray for you. We love you. We are mindful of you. The Lord is mindful of you.
No matter how many times you’ve fallen. Rise up. You can do it now.
October 6, 2013 at 1:39 am #274806Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:Elder Holland:
This talk is personal, given my family history. I did the best I could, but
everyone needs to read this talk, as well. Disciples of Jesus Christ are to have compassion. I wish to speak to those who suffer from some kind of mental illness or depression. There should be no more shame in acknowledging them than with high blood pressure or any other physical ailment. Of greatest assurance is that a Savior would be provided in our difficulties. That divine love makes our own suffering bearable. Focuses on MDD – or, simply, depression – not discouragement we all face, but clinical depression.
Depression robs a portion of agency.
No one ever should say that more faith can cure it.It is a dark night of the mind I have seen afflict sweet and angelic people. (Lost my feed for a moment.) I experienced it to a degree in the past, with an explanation of the situation that caused it. I got through it, but I feel for those who suffer more than I did. Mention of Winston Churchill and Pres. George Albert Smith and their struggles with depression.
Never lose faith in Heavenly Father. His love is there for you when you are sad or happy. It is simply, always, there. Seek the counsel of spiritual leaders. Ask for blessings. Take the sacrament. Believe in miracles. I have seen so many, when hope seemed lost. Remember the Savior’s own, anguished example. If the bitter cup does not pass, drink it. Watch for stress indicators. Make adjustments when you are fatigued. Slow down; rest up.
Seek the advice of reputable people with certified skills and training.Be honest about your history and struggles. Reference to appendicitis – and the need to get ALL help available. Try not to be overwhelmed. Don’t assume you can fix everything. Be patient. Sometimes, all you can do is stand still – or be still – and wait. Caregivers, don’t destroy you own health as you provide for others.
“We are infinitely more than our limitations and complications.”
“Though we may feel we are like a broken vessel, we must remember that vessel is in the hands of the divine potter.”
I need to stop. My emotions are too strong.
Please read and watch the talk.This is a good talk. Yet, I remember years ago a special KSL radio did on Mormon Women and depression. And that Utah has one of the highest use of anti-depressants. The article talked about all the pressures of being the perfect woman in the church and how that was causing alot of depression in the church.
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/049-19-27.pdf I wonder if they would address that the pressures in the church can actually cause depression. It certainly did for me at times.October 6, 2013 at 1:58 am #274807Anonymous
GuestThank you, mackay11. Very good summaries – more detail than mine. :thumbup: I loved Elder Caussé’s talk. The ultra-conservative, anti-immigration members might be having a collective stroke right now, but that’s not a bad thing, necessarily.
:silent: October 6, 2013 at 2:37 am #274795Anonymous
GuestI’ll watch Urchtdorf and Holland I guess. I stayed completely away from conference this year…first time in years that ive done so.
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October 6, 2013 at 3:08 am #274796Anonymous
GuestIt’s better that way right now for you, friend. A couple of the talks might have made you consume too many mild barley drinks and use words that shouldn’t be associated with General Conference. :shh: 
I would add Elder Caussé’s talk to your reading list, as well.
October 6, 2013 at 3:20 am #274797Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:It’s better that way right now for you, friend. A couple of the talks might have made you consume too many mild barley drinks and use words that shouldn’t be associated with General Conference.
:shh: 
I would add Elder Caussé’s talk to your reading list, as well.
Yeah.
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October 6, 2013 at 4:46 am #274808Anonymous
GuestI didn’t watch or attend the priesthood session but I heartily endorse the Uchtdorf and Holland talks from the general sessions. October 6, 2013 at 5:29 am #274809Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:Elder Christofferson:
“I wish to express gratitude for the influence of good women.”
This is going to be a controversial talk, and I think I’m not going to agree with a lot of it. It’s going to rub a lot of women wrong, since it says, in essence, that women are more special and good and innately righteous and on and on and on than men. It’s stereotypical, and it’s going to get a lot of emotional backlash. They are going to see it as condescending and pigeon-holing.
Frankly, this is another one I think many of you will want to skip – and I’m going to stop here, unless he says something that I want to highlight. (The last part of the talk is better than the start, but it still is going to be very controversial.)
There are few talks where I didn’t feel comfortable saying, “Amen.” This was one of them.
I’m glad we had this morning’s session first.Here’s what ran through my mind: I don’t agree with everything he is saying, but I am not feeling the condescension that I often do from the you-wonderful-sisters speakers. I just get a very genuine thankfulness for the women in his life. I thought, if I worked with him on the ward level, it would be mutually respectful. I wish he hadn’t included the Nadauld quote because it’s made the rounds and been a source of contention.
October 6, 2013 at 6:35 am #274810Anonymous
GuestQuote:I just get a very genuine thankfulness for the women in his life. I thought, if I worked with him on the ward level, it would be mutually respectful.
I agree, Ann.
October 6, 2013 at 6:41 am #274811Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:Thank you, mackay11. Very good summaries – more detail than mine.
:thumbup: I loved Elder Caussé’s talk. The ultra-conservative, anti-immigration members might be having a collective stroke right now, but that’s not a bad thing, necessarily.
:silent: Pleasure. I might have missed the gems on Saturday general sessions if not for you.
I fell asleep during Elder Eyring’s talk half way through taking notes. Not because it was boring but because it was 2:30am! I’ll catch up later (Edit: See below)
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