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Roy wrote:
Our ward (and I think every ward in our stake) does have a Primary drop and pick up policy. Kids are not released until a parent (not an older sibling) comes. Sometimes that’s an issue for Primary workers who are left waiting for said parents to show a half hour after church ends (some workers have been known to seek out the parents, kids in tow).That is wonderful. I personally wonder if the adult classes might be let out 5 or 10 minutes earlier giving parents more time to pick up their kids before the primary teachers get exasperated. We do not do this in my ward. Sometimes primary lets out early and the kids will be running down the hall to find their parents while those parents are still in class.
DarkJedi wrote:
I will also add that while the bishop’s interview thing got all the press, part of that policy change also requires two deep teachers in every classroom for children and youth and that’s been (I believe) widely overlooked. I asked recently if this policy also applies to early morning seminary and was answered emphatically “yes.”
Wow, This is the first time I have heard of that. This also appears to not yet have been implemented in my ward. I applaud the change.
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https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/multimedia/file/Preventing-and-Responding-to-Abuse-attachment-final.pdf ” class=”bbcode_url”> https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/multimedia/file/Preventing-and-Responding-to-Abuse-attachment-final.pdf Quote:At Church
Church leaders should follow these guidelines to help prevent abuse at Church:
• A person must not be given a Church calling or assignment that involves working with children or youth if his or her membership record is not in the ward or if it has an annotation for abuse (see Handbook 1: Stake Presidents and Bishops [2010], 17.3.2).
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When adults are teaching children or youth in Church settings, at least two responsible adults should be present. The two adults could be two men, two women, or a married couple(see Handbook 2: Administering the Church [2010], 11.8.1). Where it may not be practical to have at least two adults in a classroom, leaders should consider combining classes. • At least two adults must be present on all Church-sponsored activities attended by youth or children. All adult leaders participating in Scouting must be registered with the Boy Scouts of America (see First Presidency letter, May 12, 2017) and complywith guidelines in the BSA publication Guide to Safe Scouting.
• When a brother participates in a ministering visit to an individual woman, he should go with his companion or with his wife.
• When a member of a stake presidency or bishopric or another assigned leader meets with a child, youth, or woman, he or she should ask a parent or another adult to be in an adjoining room, foyer, or hall. If the person being interviewed desires, another adult may be invited to participate in the interview. Leaders should avoid all circumstances that could be misunderstood (see Handbook 1, 7.4).
• On Church-sponsored overnight activities, a child or youth may not stay in the tent or room of an adult leader unless the adult is his or her parent or guardian or there are at least two adults in the tent or room who are the same gender as the child or youth (see Handbook 2, 13.6.12).
• If adult leaders and children or youth share other overnight facilities, such as a cabin, there must be at least two adults in the facility and they must be the same gender as the children or youth (see Handbook 2, 13.6.12).
(emphasis added)Fallon is next to the stake I attended when we lived in Nevada. I spent quite a bit of time there for my job. One of the young men in our ward is serving in the mission that covers that area. This hit home for me on multiple levels. We also had a 4th Sunday lesson on this issue in our current ward. The gist was exactly what has been shared already: Get out ASAP and, if that isn’t possible, group together near the most likely entrance point and tackle the shooter en masse as a group.
What can we do to prevent a determined shooter? Not much, unfortunately, outside of extreme building modifications – and even they won’t work in cases like this where nobody would have thought to deny the person entrance.
Most corporate training now is.. Run
Lock
Fight
Run like hell and leave others behind.
If you can’t escape, find a place to lock and be quiet but start looking for weapons to fight active shooters.
Google it and watch YouTube videos on it.
SilentDawning wrote:
There was a story years ago about a man who came to a chapel. Asked for someone in authority and a Bishop came out to see him. The man shot the Bishop leaving behind the mother and 8 children. I sure hope the church ponied up with some kind of lifetime support payments for the woman and her children.
Nah; probably just told her that faith would get her through.
NightSG wrote:
SilentDawning wrote:
There was a story years ago about a man who came to a chapel. Asked for someone in authority and a Bishop came out to see him. The man shot the Bishop leaving behind the mother and 8 children. I sure hope the church ponied up with some kind of lifetime support payments for the woman and her children.
Nah; probably just told her that faith would get her through.
That is not helpful. My sister was bitten by a dog on the face as she served a mission. She finished her mission but nerve pain continued. The church continued to pay for a variety of treatments long after she returned home.
I know that not every story ends that way and that the church can be unresponsive at times but let’s not jump to conclusions and assume the negative.
That is not helpful to my journey to StayLDS and is not fitting with the mission of this site.
Roy wrote:
That is not helpful. My sister was bitten by a dog on the face as she served a mission. She finished her mission but nerve pain continued. The church continued to pay for a variety of treatments long after she returned home.I know that not every story ends that way and that the church can be unresponsive at times but let’s not jump to conclusions and assume the negative.
That is not helpful to my journey to StayLDS and is not fitting with the mission of this site.
This is definitely a good use of church funds. I’m sorry to hear about her nasty experience but I am glad that the church stood by her when she was injured in the line of duty.
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