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goodbirds wrote:
I think homosexuality is an affliction, just like other burdens we all seem to have throughout life. True, it is a painful one emotionally, if abstained from it. Should gays marry? It has been a question of semantics. The Bible is very clear, that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. But I think that means he is aware of the struggle, and his mercy is available to all who seek him. Marriage as an institution is held dear to heterosexual couples, and they don’t want it to mean anything else.
I would agree that it is an affliction, but only in the context of culture. I have spent a good amount of time studying it out in the scriptures. I haven’t come to the same conclusion that the Lord views it as an abomination. But, in a culture where it is commonly accepted as an abomination, being gay can be an affliction.
In fact, I believe that one of the reasons the “gay lifestyle” that you mentioned is so prevalent is because gays have been treated like deviants and forced underground by mainstream culture for years.
For what it’s worth, I have a gay uncle who grew old with his better half and wasn’t lonely until his partner passed away. My brother is also headed down that path,a he is in a long term committed relationship. As society and hopefully Mormon culture continues to open it’s arms to our gay brothers and sisters hopefully these success stories become what we think of a the gay lifestyle.
Quote:Last year, I asked him if any
of his “friends” were still coming around. His
response killed me. He said “I’ve just become
an old man who feeds the pigeons everyday
in the park”. He has NO ONE! He is a lonely old man. Perhaps if he’d found a life partner
and could have “married” or had a civil union,
he’d have someone there now.
This is the problem with so called sexual liberation and prosmicuity. It only works for the physically attractive, young, fit, etc.
We’ve also surrrounded marriage with silly rules.
SamBee wrote:In some places it just means official recognition of gay marriage, but no compunction on religious bodies to do it.
That’s how the law is written in here in Canada. We’ve had legal same-sex marriages nationally since 2005 (some provinces have had it since 2003) and our society has yet to collapse
I’m sure some gay pressure groups wish to force it on religious bodies, but I doubt mosques will be first targeted. I’m sure gay marriage will be popular at first but then will tail off like the other kind, once the novelty wears off and reality kicks in.
Canucknuckle wrote:
That’s how the law is written in here in Canada. We’ve had legal same-sex marriages nationally since 2005 (some provinces have had it since 2003) and our society has yet to collapseThe funny thing is, up here in Canada it really isn’t a big deal. The only time I hear it brought up as an issue is in relation to the U.S. Once it became legal, it seemed to normalize quickly. Those who want to marry, do. Those who don’t, don’t.
And my son’s preschool teacher who just married her partner…well her actions havn’t weakened my marriage one bit.
ihhi wrote:Canucknuckle wrote:
That’s how the law is written in here in Canada. We’ve had legal same-sex marriages nationally since 2005 (some provinces have had it since 2003) and our society has yet to collapseThe funny thing is, up here in Canada it really isn’t a big deal. The only time I hear it brought up as an issue is in relation to the U.S. Once it became legal, it seemed to normalize quickly. Those who want to marry, do. Those who don’t, don’t.
And my son’s preschool teacher who just married her partner…well her actions havn’t weakened my marriage one bit.
I agree. It seems to have become a complete non-issue here. That is why I find is so odd that people in the U.S. are still so upset by the possibility of it becoming legalized.
As I keep saying – marriage, any kind, is in dire need of redefinition. Why does the government do so much to undermine it? Personally I would revert to the old law of marriage by habit and repute. If you have been willingly living with, having sex with, and sharing someone’s bills for more than a few months, that’s marriage, and should be legally binding.
Instead we have weddings costing tens of thousands of dollars, horrible divorces, parasitic lawyers, people with several children living together for twenty years who aren’t “married”, people who live together for a matter of hours who technically are, women who lose their surnames, people who marry for money, a whole counseling and therapy business etc. Oh, and the government makes a fast buck out of registration.
Marriage is a complete farce. Why isn’t being sorted out?
SamBee wrote:…the government makes a fast buck out of registration.
Marriage is a complete farce. Why isn’t being sorted out?
If I quote your penultimate sentence it also answers your question.
If I dldn’t feel it was such a trap, I would have married long ago.
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