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July 12, 2019 at 3:30 pm #336303
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GuestI might almost venture to say “he didn’t REALLY go down the rabbit hole as much as I have” (I get it – that is judging to say that). But resigning is usually a sign that someone is taking things seriously and it isn’t just that “the bishop ticked me off one Sunday”. But I want to be clear. I am trying not to judge and I am very happy for rebel making this work. But just as Rumin8, I don’t understand it. I have become more accepting of not understanding (knowing) and accepting others truth for themselves. Especially if they are not saying, “You have to think/believe/act just like I do.” I see none of that from rebel.
July 13, 2019 at 9:13 pm #336304Anonymous
GuestI wanted to post again because I feel like I’m not being clear about y position . I did come back basically for family i.e. my wife however I feel that my inward beliefs toward religion are as follows I believe in basic Christianity i.e. the 10 commandments, Christ is the son of God , be a good person help others. I dont believe I need the church to make it to the CK or to be saved. I think their is truth in most churches and God speaks to us in ways we will hear him/accept him that’s why we have so many Christian churches. In fact I align closer to the beliefs of the Coc . I have come back and stay because my wife and sister in law are TBMs and the church does have many many good people in it. All churches have issues !!!!! The LDS church is still a good place to be even if I keep my beliefs to myself and only agree with some teachings like the pre existence. I do have issues seeing others being treated poorly because of race, sexual orientation, ethnicity etc, etc. Just wanted th throw all that out there I would love to hear others thoughts on this , I guess I have my own hybrid belief system. July 14, 2019 at 12:41 pm #336305Anonymous
GuestREBEL2 wrote:
I guess I have my own hybrid belief system.
I think we all do. The more orthodox types tend to criticize what they might call “cafeteria Mormonism” but in reality we all pick and choose what we do or don’t believe or do or don’t fully believe. Some of us just happen to believe much less than others. I think and hope there is room for us in the church because the gospel of Jesus Christ, which the church professes, is for everybody.
July 14, 2019 at 7:09 pm #336306Anonymous
GuestQuote:I might almost venture to say “he didn’t REALLY go down the rabbit hole as much as I have” (I get it – that is judging to say that).
I get that perception. In the early stages of my faith crisis/transition I felt like I was falling off a cliff and grasping at straws to stop or slow the descent. I landed on a firm platform that “God loves me”. In talking to my Bishop at the time he expressed that he too had had something of a faith crisis and had landed on a shelf that was essentially, “LDS church holds the restored priesthood of God”. Church leaders could say and do a lot of kooky things but in the end it was the authority of priesthood that mattered. I marveled that he would find firm footing so much higher up on the cliff face, while I had fallen so much further. I now believe that the human mind on a subconscious level does not like the discomfort of a shelf or assumptive world collapse and will seek to right itself. I do not believe that I choose my shelf of “God Loves me”. It came from a place deep inside that I took to be revelation and I clung to it for dear life.
REBEL2 wrote:
I guess I have my own hybrid belief system.
Yes, so do I. I keep as much of Mormonism as makes sense to me. I do not really believe that what I keep is necessarily more true than what I discard. In this sense, principles or doctrines can be personally “true” or not based on their usefulness. A hammer can be great for hammering nails but if it is a saw you need a hammer will not be “true” or useful for the job. While someone else may think hammers are the best things since sliced bread and have gone their entire lives hungering for a proper hammer. This coping mechanism helps me (somewhat) to allow others to find inspiration, belief, and joy where they may without getting too hung up on the “truth” of the belief. If it helps them to live a more fulfilling life then it is true to them. -
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