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June 2, 2014 at 3:30 pm #285602
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GuestQuote:writer63 wrote:
Of ev’ry action; then do what is right!Major guilt trip! This scared me for a long time growing up. I felt like I always had someone looking over my shoulder.
Especially because I don’t think it’s true. If God’s angels have nothing better to do than nitpick every single little thing we do wrong, then nobody is getting to the Celestial Kingdom.
Actually now that I think about it, I’m sure there is a LOT of non-doctrinal folk wisdom in the LDS hymnbook. And a lot of just plain glurge.
June 2, 2014 at 3:33 pm #285603Anonymous
GuestIt gives it it’s charm. June 2, 2014 at 4:04 pm #285604Anonymous
Guestwriter63 wrote:I had to read this thread simply because of the title. Cracked me up!
😆 I don’t think anyone has mentioned 2 of my least favs (and there are many),
Put Your Should to the Wheel
Do What is Right
Quote:Angels above us are silent notes taking
Of ev’ry action; then do what is right!
Major guilt trip! This scared me for a long time growing up. I felt like I always had someone looking over my shoulder.
I used to have a picture in my head of a stern faced angel writing down everything I did, mostly while shaking her head.
😆 Your post reminded me of another I dislike –
I’ll Go Where You Want Me To Go– can’t stand the tune or the guilt message (because I’m not all that willing to go, say or be, I like to go where I want to go, say what I want to say, and be who I am). June 2, 2014 at 4:41 pm #285605Anonymous
GuestFor me it’s mostly the ones that are overplayed, i.e. Because I’ve been given much, lord I would follow thee, come follow me,ect. My favorite sacrament him is Reverently and Meekly Now because it is from the Savior’s point of view which I love. I think a big problem with the overplayed songs is most organists (bless their souls) aren’t trained organists or pianists so they play songs that are easy. I also love Oh Savior Thou who wearest a crown (I might be a little off on the title), it’s a beautiful melody but difficult to play so it never is. I don’t know if there is a solution to the problem, perhaps a revamp of the songbook with easier songs to play overall.
June 2, 2014 at 5:24 pm #285606Anonymous
GuestPut your shoulder to the wheel. never liked that one. Reminds me too much of trying to push a granite stone all by yourself. Story of my life. June 2, 2014 at 8:32 pm #285607Anonymous
GuestLike – All creatures of our god and king. If you could hie to Kolob. Dislike – praise to the man, called to serve, first vision.
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June 2, 2014 at 10:32 pm #285608Anonymous
GuestWhenever we sing “I Believe in Christ” I ask people if we have to sing all eight verses. :thumbdown: Very few people get it.
“I Stand All Amazed” is one of my favorites – simply because I love the words and it has one of the best lines in the hymnbook:
Quote:“confused at the grace that so fully he proffers me”
I really, really, really love that line.
June 3, 2014 at 1:47 pm #285609Anonymous
GuestDarkJedi wrote:So today the sacrament hymn was
In Humility Our Savior. One line jumped out at me, and frankly ruined the sacrament experience for me. That line: “Then, when we have proven worthy of thy sacrifice divine….” Aren’t we all worthy of that sacrifice? Wasn’t it for all of us, regardless of our circumstances?
Romans 5:6-8… Every person was a sinner when “Christ died for the ungodly”.I can’t abide “Praise to the man” or “Joseph Smith’s First Prayer”.
An overused song I don’t like is “I Am a Child of God.” We sing this way too much. It is a primary song and nothing more. I find the tune annoying, and the sticky-sweetness of it is too much.
I love some: “Abide With Me!”, “Where Can I Turn for Peace?”, “Brightly Beams Our Father’s Mercy”, “Love One Another”, and for sheer meaningfulness, “Lord, I Would Follow Thee” (In the quiet heart is hidden sorrow that the eye can’t see. Who am I to judge another? Lord, I would follow thee.)
June 3, 2014 at 2:57 pm #285610Anonymous
GuestI agree OON, we certainly are all sinners. Other than following Christ, though, or being believers if you will, I don’t know that we can prove ourselves worthy nor that we are expected to – the Savior’s atonement is a free gift to all. Speaking of Christ, the hymn
I Believe in Christhas been mentioned a few times. Granted I don’t like the tune all that much, and it is really 8 verses as Ray pointed out, I sort of do like much of the message and the words. I particularly like that it repeats “I believe” (although maybe a bit too often) because it doesn’t say “I know” or something else – it’s just a believe statement. That’s not to say other hymns that do use know are bad – I like I Know That My Redeemer Lives. Back to OON, I agree about
I Am A Child of God– overused children’s song. Besides, I am not a child of God, I am at least an adolescent of God – I don’t think I am an adult of God because that would indicate that I am like God and I am not, but I’m not a child, either. My own rebelliousness and seeking my place in the church would also indicate adolescence. Just saying. And I like the others you mentioned, too, OON – especially
Brightly Beams Our Father’s Mercy(which I plan to use in an upcoming talk) and Lord, I Would Follow Theeif for no other reason than that one line. Maybe I should start another thread about hymns that speak to us as other than orthodox members.
June 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm #285611Anonymous
GuestTrue to the faith is at the bottom of my list. Who’s on the Lord’s Side as well. I tend to prefer some of the Ebeneezer Beezley hmns, and I really like God of our Fathers Known of Old and Praise to The Lord the Almighty..
June 3, 2014 at 6:34 pm #285612Anonymous
GuestAnn – I totally agree with your list and the final hymn you chose. The ward I grew up in stood every time we sang “Rejoice the Lord is King”. The act of standing tall, and really singing an anthem to our God and King was so inspiring to me as a kid. I rarely hear us sing it anymore. I miss it. Cwald – I am a Hie to Kolob person, I love the unique tune. It may not be doctrine but is a cool sound.
Four hymns I love that never get air time are “Master the Tempest Is Raging” and “Abide With Me” and it’s counterpart “Abide With Me Tis Eventide” they are slower but the pleading touches my soul. Last of all “A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief” but it has to be all 7 verses. It is the coolest Christ parable around.
Song I would love to dismiss – “Count Your Many Blessings”. The Utah ones need to go to, largely because we are not a Utah church anymore – or at least they keep telling us that. I think national hymns should be removed with an addendum that each nation/country can and should use their anthems when it fits them.
The Joseph Smith songs and I have a wrestling match, I understand how/why they came about – I even appreciate rare instances in using them. Rare though is the word, if we stuck them back in the Mens Choir section that would be great. The fact that they are in the front – ahead of Christ – and get used once a month somewhere drives me batty.
June 3, 2014 at 7:03 pm #285613Anonymous
GuestDarkJedi wrote:A song I really dislike is
I Heard Him Come. In this instance it is not doctrine – I see no scriptural or other evidence that “rivers crawl(ed) to find him” or that “mountains move(d) just to let him through.” (And note again, I do believe in the Savior.)
I dig that song. I can imagine rivers crawling to find Christ and mountains moving to let Him through. I don’t think the song is pretending to be doctrinal or scriptural – it’s just a way to depict the glory of God🙂 June 3, 2014 at 7:29 pm #285614Anonymous
GuestWe don’t sing as much as we did long ago, and that’s making the hymns less familiar to us. Used to be, one hymn to open Priesthood Meeting in the morning, one to open Sunday School and a Sacrament hymn in Sunday School. Then almost always four hymns during the 90-minute Sacrament Meeting. In those days, I could count on singing seven hymns on any given Sunday. Nowadays, we usually have three in Sacrament Meeting, with an occasional fourth, one in Priesthood/RS, and done. Even if you assume a full four hymns in SM, that’s five, or a reduction of 28% from the old days. If you don’t get a fourth hymn in for SM, that’s a 43% reduction. Now, I’m not saying I want to go back to the pre-block days, just pointing out that our progenitors sang more than we do now.
June 3, 2014 at 7:38 pm #285615Anonymous
GuestI’d say ‘I Believe In Christ’ is actually seven verses, since the last one has to be repeated to fit the melody. Either way, that song is an absolute drag to conduct. Back when I was in charge of music in our singles branch, I learned very quickly to stick with shorter hymns or I would have a very sore arm! June 3, 2014 at 7:43 pm #285616Anonymous
GuestI don’t like How Firm a Foundationbecause it’s so dadgum hard to make sense of it. This song was some kind of theme for the year recently and the kids in primary learned it. I bet the smartest primary kid in any ward or branch couldn’t tell you what the first verse means. How firm a foundation, ye saints of the Lord,Is laid for your faith in His excellent Word!
I guess that means a firm foundation was laid for the saints and they can build their faith in God’s word on that foundation.
What more can He say than to you He hath said,Who unto Jesus for refuge have fled?
Well, if “He” refers to the Lord, then he can add all sorts of things to what he has said. I think the subject changes for the second line and “Who” refers to the saints, but it’s just not clear. It almost sounds like the Lord has fled to himself for refuge.
Admittedly, the rest of the verses are a lot better.
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