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It truly depends on where you are in your beliefs about the temple, the ordinances made there, and the garment. I choose to take the message behind the garment without wearing them. I dress myself as a classy responsible woman. When I am around my Mormon friends I look “up to code”. I have not changed my outer clothing very much since retiring my garments. However, because I question the validity and neccessity of the temple ordinances, I choose to no longer wear the garment. I enjoy the freedom and comfort of wearing underwear of my choice. And by the same token I respect those who choose to wear it. This is such a personal decision I can’t offer any advice other than to do what you feel is right for your unique life.
Goldilocks wrote:I question the validity and neccessity of the temple ordinances,
This seems to be a great topic for another board!?
I have been unsuccessful at searching the board on the following, but I’m wondering if anyone has found something that works: The garments are in evidence under peoples’ clothing and it is sometimes referred to as “the eternal smile” (because the cloth is in a semicircle under the neck and shows under some shirts). This is not as much an issue as the garment design has changed to more closely reflect standard undershirts for men that just go to the collar level. I have heard stories of members who do not wear garments who have felt discriminated against because other members feel that their not wearing their garments is evidence of apostasy or something wrong with the person. To get out from under condemnation without giving in to wearing a piece of clothing that has religious symbolism that the wearer may no longer feel comfortable with, I have heard that some people have found regular underclothes (undershirts, underwear) that simulate the appearance of the garment without committing the wearer to the religious significance if they are not up to that.
Has anyone found any regular undergarments that fill the role of the garment without the baggage that comes with wearing symbols that may not be part of one’s faith anymore?
I find the tops and bottoms of the garment decently comfortable, but have a hard time knowing what else I could wear if I chose to that wouldn’t put me too far from the feel of the garment if I didn’t want to wear the garments themselves. Any shopping advice (could also help the OP possibly too)?
Mormon-Mason wrote:Goldilocks wrote:I question the validity and neccessity of the temple ordinances,
This seems to be a great topic for another board!?
I think it might be a topic for a different post, but not a different board. This is the place we can talk about questioning.
I took my garments off about a month ago. Never thought I would EVER do this. This past month has been so freeing!!!! 
Why did I take them off? That’s a loaded question…and it’s hard to put into words.
I feel so happy. So carefree. And it’s not just because of the garments; it has to do with a lot of things. I like where I am.
Now that I think about it, it has only been about two weeks since I stopped wearing them. It seems like a lot longer! Quote:This seems to be a great topic for another board!?
We have discussed that topic, at length, in other threads here. If you are interested, do some searching, read a thread or two and bump one up for more comments from current participants.
Just when I think I’ve broken away from black and white thinking I realize I haven’t! That is a wonderful idea to wear garments to church even if one doesn’t feel comfortable wearing them 24/7. I’m interested in what others have said about the validity of the garment, thanks for the link!
I put up this link before but it seems like people still want to discuss it. http://www.ldssdf.org/v2/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45 Hi Maggiemoo! I got married almost a year ago in the temple and before even going through I had major issue with garments. I have never worn them outside of the the temple and I feel completely at peace with my decision. It is liberating-even though I never wore them-to not feel condemned to a fate of feeling bad about yourself everyday. I still worry about what others think of me, and when at church or around my family I wear clothes that look like I could be wearing garments. I really don’t like feeling unauthentic, and I’m hoping to someday have the courage to ‘come out of the closet’ to my family. I have found that more of my friends than I ever would have guessed share my opinion on garments. I would suggest treading lightly on the issue to test the waters of who will be able to relate and who won’t. Just know that you are not alone in this and there are many many others who share your pain. Mormon-Mason wrote:I’m not sure why women cant wear a bra first and the garment top second.
They can! There is no ‘official’ word on this, and the unofficial teaching (usually whispered through a changing room door, and up to the whim of the temple worker on duty) is slowly changing. Wearing a bra under the cotton camisoles with no lace on them is the most comfortable have ever been while wearing g’s.
You can also wear panties under your bottoms as needed.
I decided to renew my temple recommend, and to me that meant keeping my covenants regarding garments, i.e. wearing them night and day. As an added bonus, ‘cuz I’m super duper awesome
😆 I even wear themeverynight and day. What I don’t do is wear them all night or all day.
Regarding the instructions is not to take them off for anything that might be reasonably be done while wearing them, I think going outside in the summer is not something that can reasonably done while wearing garments.
I would be over the moon if they changed the top to spaghetti straps. OVER THE MOON.
rebeccad wrote:Mormon-Mason wrote:I’m not sure why women cant wear a bra first and the garment top second.
They can! There is no ‘official’ word on this, and the unofficial teaching (usually whispered through a changing room door, and up to the whim of the temple worker on duty) is slowly changing. Wearing a bra under the cotton camisoles with no lace on them is the most comfortable have ever been while wearing g’s.
You can also wear panties under your bottoms as needed.
I decided to renew my temple recommend, and to me that meant keeping my covenants regarding garments, i.e. wearing them night and day. As an added bonus, ‘cuz I’m super duper awesome
😆 I even wear themeverynight and day. What I don’t do is wear them all night or all day.
Regarding the instructions is not to take them off for anything that might be reasonably be done while wearing them, I think going outside in the summer is not something that can reasonably done while wearing garments.
I would be over the moon if they changed the top to spaghetti straps. OVER THE MOON.
Nice.
This line: “do not take them off for anything that might be reasonably be done while wearing them” is key and leaves the grown adult the opportunity to make their own choices. I’ve started adding to the list. It used to be very short. But I’m being reasonable while doing it.
Oh… and P.S. Quote:
Old Version: ‘The garment should not be removed for activities which might reasonably be done with the garment worn beneath the clothing. As members carefully follow these principles, they will be guided by the Holy Spirit in considering their personal commitment to wear the garment’.New version: ‘The garment should not be removed, either entirely or partially to work in the yard or for other activities that can be reasonably be done with the garment worn beneath the clothing. Members who have made covenants in the temple should be guided by the Holy Spirit to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing the garment.’
I’m British… If I’m working in a yard then I’m probably a builder. Builders have yards. It’s where they keep all their tools and materials. You can go to a builder’s yard and buy timber or bricks.
That thing at the back of my house? Oh… that’s a garden. They didn’t mention gardens.
Thanks for posting those versions together, mackay11. About personal responsibility, the old version says:
Quote:“in considering their personal commitment to wear the garment.”
The new version says:
Quote:“to answer for themselves personal questions about wearing the garment.”
I actually like the new version better (
a LOT better) – and I really do believe the top leadership would like the membership to grow up, act like adults and stop asking to be commanded in all things. mackay11 wrote:
That thing at the back of my house? Oh… that’s a garden. They didn’t mention gardens.Genius
:clap: You`ve set my brain off on a whole stream of culturally relative justifications now. I`ll ponder this some more when I go home for my tea tonight…
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