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    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    I think you should make up your own fake optical illusion, like one of the apostle’s eyes is always looking at the bosom of female patrons.

    😆 😆 Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! That is seriously hilarious. :clap:

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    PiperAlpha wrote:

    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    I think you should make up your own fake optical illusion, like one of the apostle’s eyes is always looking at the bosom of female patrons.

    😆 😆 Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner! That is seriously hilarious. :clap:

    And perhaps the face morphs into Arnold Schwarzenegger as the eyes wander.

    Love it Hawkgrrl…. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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    Keep posting the best comments here so we can all get a good laugh, or cry, whichever the case may be.

    #244082
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    …and if you ever really need out, just quit wearing nylons and get kicked out! ; )

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    I liked your comebacks, hawkgrrrl, especially this one:

    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    You could suggest that they install the new TSA screening devices to ensure everyone is wearing nylons and garments. Or you could ask to see hers now that you showed her yours and explain “I thought that was the game we were playing.”


    Obviously, I couldn’t get aware with using most of them. What’s hard for me is knowing whether I should speak up or keep quiet. Either way I end up feeling like I made the wrong choice. Sometimes I want to say how I feel (hopefully without coming across as overly sarcastic). I want to get the point across that we Mormons are not all exactly alike and that I am not ashamed to see things differently than some other Mormon does. We can still all believe in the fundamentals of the same gospel without being clones of one another. That doesn’t make one of us a “good” Mormon and one of us a “bad” Mormon. At other times, I am outspoken about how I feel and end up regretting it. Afterwards, I end up telling myself that it’s really not necessary for me to make my opinions known on everything. I appreciate the humorous replies and knowing that I can vent here without being “called to repentence,” but I could also use some serious advice about what kind of comebacks would actually put people in their place without alienating them. I’m going to need to spend eight hours a week with these women for the next three years. I need some coping skills that will accomplish what I want to accomplish. I feel like a doormat when I say nothing, because my silence implies agreement, but I am not anxious to have people hate me either.

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    bridget_night wrote:

    Basically, you are dealing with the lds culture and ignorance and all you can do is say in your head, “Father, Forgive them for they know not what they do.” It would serve no good purpose with smart comebacks. But, Jesus always answered a question with a question and tried to show people the error of their thinking, so maybe you will be inspired to do that from time to time.

    I really wish I could do that. I’m going to work on it. I would love to be able to come up with questions that would make these ladies stop and think about how their remarks came across.

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    The quote you gave that actually irrated me the most is the one on ‘good children,” I would have been very tempted to say, “You know, my greatest blessing has come from my gay son. Because of him I have been able to love and minister to so many of God’s precious gay children and I have changed and grown the most from. How has having ‘good children’ made you grow and build your character?”

    Oh, man, that it perfect. I do mean perfect.

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    canadiangirl wrote:

    You could also try xanax. (I’m joking only a little…. 😆 )


    You think I don’t already?

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    clahcrah wrote:

    …and if you ever really need out, just quit wearing nylons and get kicked out! ; )


    I’ll keep that one in mind. It’s these serious infractions that I have such a hard time with.

    #244087
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    If you’re looking for advice, I would consider the following:

    1. Come out with comments that leave them thinking. People have done this to me before. You assert yourself by making a comment that has implications, and which leaves people thinking about what you said. For example with the “It’s such a blessing to have good children”. You could respond “Spencer W. Kimball had a less-active son; I wonder what he would think about that”, and then move to a new subject. And if they respond, you come up with another comment such as….”I’m glad there are none of those families that do everything according to plan and still have less-active children aren’t in earshot…” and look around uncomfortably.

    2. For the comments about nylons etcetera, you might ask….”I used to be on the lookout for minor things like that, until I met some people that feel truly alienated when we focus on appearances rather than the gospel. …” [you can meet a few of us here on StayLDS who have expressed angst about white shirt fixations by priesthood leaders, for example]. Help the person think about the perspective of others they may not have considered.

    Here is a loose example…I was driving once with some missionaries, and I made a questionable traffic decision. One of the missionaries, objected, and I replied it wasn’t a big deal. Then he pointed to the sky and said “that police helicopter might look at it differently”. And, guess what, there WAS a police helicopter above!!

    I see this applicable when people make bigoted Church comments; point them to the perspective of the group/type of person who might see it differently. LIke blanket disapproval of homosexuals, for example. A possible response might be “I can see how a some people might look at it that way, but strong LDS people with gay relatives struggle with that interpretation.; I know a few”. (Bridget Night would be one of them, here on this board, just so you can say something like that with integrity_

    Another one “Yes, that’s a prevailing thought in some circles, but thousands of people might disagree with you if we put it to a vote”.

    I also like soft landings — you make a comment that has a bit of an edge to it, but then follow it up with a comment that affirms the person. For example, after making an edgy comment, follow it up with “But I liked your perspective on the spirituality of Emma Smith earlier; I’m probably going to share that experience with others at some point.”

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    Katzpur wrote:

    5. I got called on the carpet the first week for supposedly not wearing nylons. I actually was wearing them, but they were the “toeless” kind that most women don’t even know they can buy. I wanted to say, “You should count yourself lucky that there is one women on your shift that doesn’t dress like she’s 20 years older than she actually is.” Instead, I hiked up my dress to show her that my garments were in fact under a pair of nylons.


    Update: It was announced in prayer meeting at one of my shifts last week that nylons were no longer a requirement. I can’t help but wonder if my mini-rebellion had anything to do with this change in policy. It really kind of cracked me up to see how the Church is relaxing its standards to make us building hostesses be more “of the world.” 😆

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