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Have a look at these stats from BYU regarding annual cost of tuition, graduate rates, and earnings after college compared to national averages…BYU P seems to have the best overall graduation rates and salaries, but is more expensive than the other two. https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?name=Brigham%20Young%20University&sort=size:asc I am not surprised that BYU-I has the lowest graduation level. In fact I am surprised it is as high as it is. They have many online students via the Pathway program (something I commend the church on doing). But then again, I think some of these pathways degrees are for associates degrees. I am not knocking associates degrees, but they do take about half the time/effort/$ as a bachelors. I wish more people would get an associates rather than going to to college and not finishing a bachelors degree. Interestingly, I am encouraging my oldest to apply to a church school. He doesn’t want to be around “that many Mormons,” but I feel like he needs some positive influences after he leaves home.
If he attends a school out here, he’ll be drunk every weekend and I may be a grandmother before I’m ready. It’s just the way things roll in my area.
:crazy: So…we’ll see what he ends up doing, but I’m surprising myself that I am pushing for a church school so heartilyl.
:think: Thanks for the post.
I’m not surprised at those stats, either. I’m not very familiar with BYU-H, but I am very familiar with Provo and somewhat familiar with BYU-I (all four of my children have attended BYU Provo). No disrespect intended here, but BYU-I is not a major league school in the same way BYU is (I’m trying to be very nice here). Idaho has a 99% acceptance rate primarily because almost no one besides those who can’t get into BYU apply there. I do know some people from our stake who did a year at BYU-I and then transferred to BYU, which may partially account for the lower grad rate (if the comparison is number admitted and number who graduate). I also know a few who went there for a semester or two at the behest of their parents and begged to return or just plain quit. The complaint I hear most about BYU-I is that there are even more rules than BYU and that they’re enforced more diligently. I will also note that BYU-I has very limited (and relatively new) “on campus” housing and most is privately owned off campus. And they don’t have a traditional dining hall like BYU’s Cannon Center Commons (there is no Sunday meal service at BYU-I).
Cost-wise, BYU-I tuition is a bit cheaper. I don’t actually know how housing costs compare between BYU-I and Provo. I do know that the difference between attending BYU or paying in-state tuition in my state is airfare to BYU (I have crunched those numbers). However, housing (on and off campus) and meal plans are significantly cheaper at BYU than state universities here (caveat, Helaman Halls with the required meal plan are almost as much – within a couple hundred dollars – as a similar housing arrangement here).
I was recently commenting to my wife how our youngest son (freshman at BYU) is getting a far richer college experience than any of his close friends who are attending in state public or private schools – even the one who is going to a school with division I athletics.
OK, off my soap box.
I work in college admissions, and we use the college scorecard site regularly. The numbers for BYU-I and BYU-H are solidly typical; The BYU-P numbers are excellent. Seriously, they are much higher than I would have imagined.
BYUI has grown so much. I wonder if those stats include online and pathways Very interesting statistics. I thought BYU I would have better salary statistics, this makes me not want my children to consider it as a backup school. My guess is that the engineering and business schools at BYU P drive through salary higher and I don’t know what kind of engineering and business programs the other two schools have. One thing I want to comment on, though, is that the excellent stats at BYU-P may have to do more with admission standards and programs offered than actually quality when the students are there. For example, it is harder to get into BYU-P so than the others so they tend to attract better students. These student may not leave for Academic reasons. Further, there is something in our culture about the prestige of BYU-P that I think might encourage people to stay. To get in after so many are rejected is a reason to keep at it. Also, doesn’t BYU have a lot of medical and legal types of programs? I am not sure. But if you compare starting salaries of those schools with universities that offer lower paying terminal degrees, the high income of BYU-P may well a result of program offerings.
Not to besmirch BYU-P — the fact that its salaries are so high, and its graduation rate are so good is something BYU-P has created. The administrators deserve massive kudos for that. Most schools have a really hard time creating that ability to attract really strong people, who then energize other students and create a dynamic learning experience.
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