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SamBee wrote:
I think we are moving forward but at a snail’s pace and slower than society at large.
Agreed!Just to provide some balance, today my wife’s new visiting teacher came up to introduce herself to my wife. She talked for 5 minutes, introduced herself to my daughters and asked their names. Didn’t even make eye contact with me or say one word. I was the invisible man. I am sorry that she was rude to you. Did she ask your wife what your name was too? HSAB, frankly, as much as I think the teacher was out-of-line in your case, Brown’s example is not one of rudeness. It was a woman doing what she was supposed to be doing – getting to know another woman and her children. Frankly, VTs aren’t asked to get to know the men in the ward. I might not agree totally with some of the differences between HT and VT, but Brown’s example is one case where I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. I really think you need to let go of this in whatever way you can.
HSAB wrote:I am sorry that she was rude to you. Did she ask your wife what your name was too?
No. If I’m invisible, she wouldn’t know I am there, so why would she ask my name?
:think: I honestly didn’t see it as completely rude. I didn’t offer my name or ask hers, either.
Dax wrote:Brown….interesting that you feel that the women here are “looking” for the slightest offense from men. It is not men but the way things are set up.
I’ll agree with you that we can be “touchy” after the church condones polygamy in reverse and I have the potential to have 40 husbands one day and if my first husband doesn’t like it well then as DC 132 states the sin is on him and he can burn in hell. Or when you are always wondering if you are going to have to share your wife in the celestial kingdom. Oh and I get to determine your clothes because we don’t want you to be “walking pornography” to us lustful women because you are responsible for our impure thoughts. Also please remember that to question us is to disobey god because we “preside”. How could I forget that in the most sacred place on earth the temple that you will have to covenant to your wife NOT to God directly because she comes first in the order of things.
Until then give me a break! It is not looking for “insult” when you have never had a voice to begin with and are finally asking to speak.
Women in this church have not been allowed to disagree with anything, even the sacredness of their sexual marriage. We have had to share husbands, marry those we were “assigned” to, be told in scripture that if we do not share our husbands that we are sinning, that we must cover this or that up, that we are responsible for men’s thoughts and virtue, the list goes on and on. The kicker though is to be threatened continually that if we disagree with the priesthood/prophet in any matter that we are sinning and should repent and have a more “submissive and humble heart” or know our place and feel no need to “lobby” for rights.
We can not even determine our own underwear! No that is for a group of old men that understand nothing of feminine hygiene or body image issues but they have the priesthood. It is 2013 and a woman may finally pray in GC the saddest part of that is that most did not even realize that no woman had before.
I love the “gospel” and am grateful for it in my life. I do not want the “church” though to treat my daughter the way it has treated me.
It’s very well made points like this that make me wonder why I want to raise my daughter in this environment.
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