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March 29, 2012 at 5:47 pm #251199
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GuestThere are various problems with modern war. Weapons are much more deadly than they once were, or persistent… old landmines survive, chemicals stay in the ecosystem, depleted uranium gets into the food chain… there are certainly parts of the world where old weapons from decades ago are still affecting modern life. Clean water continues to be a serious problem, and certain modern issues, such as pesticides, fertilisers etc
In places like New Mexico and Saudi Arabia, the ground water is going to run out in a few decades time, but that’s what they rely on.
I would also question the way that our global economic system has been headed since at least 1870.
March 29, 2012 at 6:07 pm #251200Anonymous
GuestSamBee wrote:There are various problems with modern war. Weapons are much more deadly than they once were, or persistent… old landmines survive, chemicals stay in the ecosystem, depleted uranium gets into the food chain… there are certainly parts of the world where old weapons from decades ago are still affecting modern life.
Clean water continues to be a serious problem, and certain modern issues, such as pesticides, fertilisers etc
In places like New Mexico and Saudi Arabia, the ground water is going to run out in a few decades time, but that’s what they rely on.
I would also question the way that our global economic system has been headed since at least 1870.
So which century would you prefer to live in? And in what part of the world?
March 30, 2012 at 12:32 pm #251201Anonymous
GuestIt’s all swings and roundabouts. You win some, and you lose some, depending on which century you live in. I like modern medicine, but I don’t like modern warfare. I like modern agriculture (in some ways) and cinema, but I don’t like being bombarded by unwanted advertising and noise at every given opportunity. Quote:So which century would you prefer to live in? And in what part of the world?
Probably the first small tribe on an island somewhere. Before the other tribes turn up, and the whites/Arabs whoever.
March 30, 2012 at 5:23 pm #251202Anonymous
GuestIn America culture, we often romanticize the days before the white men when the Native Americans had the place all to themselves and were one with the land. We like to portray it in cinema as tranquility and pretty well a garden of Eden. Nope. It wasn’t like that. It was survival of the fittest…starvation, cruel warfare, slavery, disease and pretty well a disregard for human life if wasn’t your own clan.
I was really surprised about how much slavery played a part of Native American/Mexican society in the 1700-1800s. I’m glad I wasn’t living during that time.
March 30, 2012 at 5:23 pm #251203Anonymous
GuestI’m grateful for indoor plumbing. March 31, 2012 at 5:22 am #251204Anonymous
GuestHeber13 wrote:I’m grateful for indoor plumbing.
I’m grateful for internet.
March 31, 2012 at 2:49 pm #251205Anonymous
GuestQuote:I’m grateful for indoor plumbing and internet.
Amen!
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The internet is a great example of something that is a tool for both great good and great bad – so, in answer to the title question, I would say the answer depends on that on which you focus and that with which you fill your life. Yes, the glass can be 90% empty – but it also can be 90% full. It’s up to us.
March 31, 2012 at 4:41 pm #251206Anonymous
GuestI think it depends on what it is. Throughout history the world has always had problems and will until when Christ comes for the earth’s 1000-year period. I’ve noticed some good and some bad more often as I’ve gotten older, but I’m grateful to be living in the time period that I am. I strive to concentrate on those things I find positive in life and I find peace. April 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm #251207Anonymous
Guestcwald wrote:In America culture, we often romanticize the days before the white men when the Native Americans had the place all to themselves and were one with the land. We like to portray it in cinema as tranquility and pretty well a garden of Eden.
Nope. It wasn’t like that. It was survival of the fittest…starvation, cruel warfare, slavery, disease and pretty well a disregard for human life if wasn’t your own clan.
I was really surprised about how much slavery played a part of Native American/Mexican society in the 1700-1800s. I’m glad I wasn’t living during that time.
Oh, I’d agree. That’s why I specified “before the other tribe turns up”. The Aztecs were brutal. But they still didn’t have landmines, and toxins that wrecked the soil for fifty years.
There are certain people, such as Weston Price (a controversial figure) who suggested that the native Americans had far less tooth decay due to a lack of sugar in their diet. I had a discussion about this the other day. (Don’t ask…)
I like indoor plumbing, but I could survive without the Internet. I never used it until after I left high school, I was perfectly happy, and I worry it is actually a form of backdoor surveillance and commercial invasion.
April 18, 2012 at 5:21 pm #251208Anonymous
GuestQuote:“President Monson has described our day as moving away ‘from that which is spiritual … [with] the winds of change [swirling] around us and the moral fiber of society [continuing] to disintegrate before our very eyes.’ It is a time of growing disbelief and disregard for Christ and His teachings.In this turbulent environment, we rejoice in being disciples of Jesus Christ. We see the Lord’s hand all around us. Our destination is beautifully set before us. ‘This is life eternal,’ Jesus prayed, ‘that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.’ Being a disciple in these days of destiny will be a badge of honor throughout the eternities.” —Elder Neil L. Andersen, “What Thinks Christ of Me?”, General Conference, Apr. 2012[Emphasis added]According to CNN (see image attached), the rest of society pretty much believes the same thing. It must be more than a Mormon thing, it is a religion thing. I think most religions set the stage for hope from the perils of the world…therefore it creates the mindset that religion is the antidote for problems of the world. It is one of the main messages of the Book of Mormon, that’s for sure.
Obi-wan says, it “depends greatly on our point of view.”
April 18, 2012 at 11:36 pm #251209Anonymous
GuestMarch 6, 2013 at 1:15 am #251210Anonymous
GuestI don’t even remember how I came across this thread, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about. I wish I were as optimistic as some of you, but I see good reasons to be concerned about our time. Here is just one of them: 
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C7tjLefOWcg/UTaOWs4XR2I/AAAAAAAAAgM/2Rhc_hYx5Pw/s1600/charta.png [/img] “In 2007, nearly 4 in 10 births were to unmarried women: The proportion of all births to unmarried women was 39.7%, up from 34.0% in 2002. The 2007 proportion was more than double that for 1980 (18.4%).”
March 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm #251211Anonymous
GuestShawn wrote:I don’t even remember how I came across this thread, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about. I wish I were as optimistic as some of you, but I see good reasons to be concerned about our time. Here is just one of them:… “In 2007,
nearly 4 in 10 births were to unmarried women: The proportion of all births to unmarried women was 39.7%, up from 34.0% in 2002. The 2007 proportion was more than double that for 1980 (18.4%).” Maybe having more single moms is not the ideal situation in most cases but at least it is generally easier for women to live alone and prevent unwanted pregnancies if they take some precautions than it was in 1940. Also, this is only one isolated measurement but when we look at just the last 100 years and see the World Wars, the Holocaust, communist mass killings, the Vietnam War, the Great Depression, segregation, etc. versus all the medical and technological advances we have now I’m not sure there is a very strong case that things are clearly worse on average than in the past (maybe less moralistic overall). To me it seems that for whatever hardship, ignorance, bigotry, injustice, etc. there still is in the world there was typically even more the farther back in history you go.
March 6, 2013 at 5:41 pm #251212Anonymous
GuestQuote:To me it seems that for whatever hardship, ignorance, bigotry, injustice, etc. there still is in the world there was typically even more the farther back in history you go.
I agree.
March 6, 2013 at 5:48 pm #251213Anonymous
GuestYeah and children of single parents are statistically more likely to fall into crime and drugs…. -
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