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John Dehlin also co-founded a website that was originally designed to assist individuals who no longer believed in basic tenets of the LDS faith in maintaining their social ties to the Church through deceitful tactics, such as lying to Bishops about their commitment to the Church.
Here’s the article, on Mormon Voices:
http://mormonvoices.org/3280/excommunication-of-john-dehlin This sounds like a gross mischaracterization to me.
Maybe, but it doesn’t fit and isn’t accurate, so I don’t care. I believe it is, although obviously misinformed. I have encountered orthodox types who believe this site to be subversive, and I think the occasional one sneaks by the filters here. Likely so. I love a good war. FYI – This entire event hit me tons harder than I expected. I am trying to work through it, but if I post stuff this off the rails, please shut me down or delete as needed. Thanks.
mom3: I think BCC is a good place to be during this storm. Just an opinion. Thanks Hawkgrrl, I kept myself there most of the day. I just really am ill. I wish I could even explain it.
I booked a weekend away with my kids, bought my husband some Valentines flowers before he heads out of town for 2 weeks, picked up supplies to make hygiene kits for homeless moms and kids. I just wish I could cry, scream, and understand my emotions right now. This so blew me away.
kinda makes me sad. But not the first time people misunderstand (reflecting back to talks with prior bishops and SP from my ex mischaracterizing this site). Some people need to be so right, they need to characterize others in poor light in order to assure themselves their dimness is brighter. It doesn’t sound like us. We’ve had threads on Temple Recommend interviews, so maybe that is someone’s interpretation of those discussions.
I think our patience to allow others to think as they like will be tested during times when the extreme sides get puffed up. Just ride it through, let it pass. People will move on shortly. The church rolls forward.
I thought the exact same think Hawk when I read that. I know some members just won’t be able to understand but we are not promoting dishonesty. I suppose I shouldn’t get my knickers in a knot over it, but I do get very irritated when the so-called faithful claim we are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They aren’t exactly finding the lost sheep! They’re more like Moroni, being so ticked off at Pahoran, he just wants to face him and wage war…. …only to find we’re all fighting the same battle and are on the same side.
Yet we all are taught about the great Captain Moroni and his legacy…Pahoran is just a side note. Oh well, I’ll be a sidenote and remind others they’re wrong to assume such things about us.
Pahoran is one of my favorites, specifically because of his reaction to Moroni’s letter. What an amazing account. Yes. I think they are referring to this site. At least they didn’t name it directly. The language the author uses makes it clear they spent no time at all directly looking at any of this stuff. They are just passing along second-hand rumors from elsewhere. We don’t tell people to lie to their priesthood leaders, not officially in the materials on this site. I don’t think any of the mods take that position. But we have pointed out there are different ways of understanding the meaning of the questions. I stand by that being legitimate and honest. BTW, one of my favorite plays in recent years were those “pass along cards” produced by Michael Ferguson and his husband Seth. People were handing those out to folks on the way into General Conference. Yes. They looked just like LDS pass along cards. That was deceptive. But the only thing these did was refer people to the
*CHURCH’S*official website: MormonsAndGays.org. Why was that a bad thing? Because the Church wanted to have its cake and eat it too — show off the site to the outside world to deflect criticism when its convenient, and then not promote it internally so that it matter at all. My opinion: it was one of those things where part of the upper leadership wanted to reach out to help heal our relationships with LGBTQ brothers and sisters, and then another faction disagreed and wanted more retrenchment. So the site never got any promo efforts as a compromise.
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