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John has been a big influence in many of the things I learned and what I have done with the knowledge. Deffinately a source for good in the wold and in the church and I hope that he will still be a voice to Mormons like us because it does carry weight. i think john is a lot more active on facebook. For those in the in the StayLDS segment, “A Thoughtful Faith Support Group” is generally aligned. Wow. What a nice treat. Thanks so much, cwald. And thanks to the others, too. Truth is, I’m barely hanging on at church right now. It has been very disappointing to me at times. This made me feel a little better….so thanks so much. 
John, I have so much respect for you and the things you have done. You are very human and I expect nothing more. It make me sad that the church we love so much can cause so much pain at times. johndehlin wrote:Wow. What a nice treat. Thanks so much, cwald. And thanks to the others, too. Truth is, I’m barely hanging on at church right now. It has been very disappointing to me at times. This made me feel a little better….so thanks so much.
I can identify very well with the Church of Jesus Christ of Saturday Conference. After Sunday Morning’s session, i was grateful to be spared the rest, given i had to travel.The reality is that the Church both edifies AND seriously disappoints. As a result of Prop8, i sought in earnest to find a replacement, and I found that ALL religions both edify and seriously disappoint. It was so frustrating to return from that final stage of my faith journey and land here: is this all there is? it was if the Jenga structure of my faith journey had entirely collapsed, and there was nothing left.
But as i saw John Dehlin reconstruct some of his faith after a disasterous mission and various faith challenges, and as i found a community of people like cwald, brian, ray, and all of you, i realized that this is our faith: the trust and love we have for one another and share. Faith, to me, is no longer pretending to know crap. Faith is hope, and trust, loving and acceptance, caring and sharing. i have come to realize i don’t know much, and believe almost nothing, yet i can have faith…an optimism that we, together, can work through our faith transformation.
To me, the soft landing zone of a faithful Middle-Way is Dehlin’s most significant contribution, although I know, personally he is ambivalevt as to its long term viability.
The third way is definitely the hardest. Its so comforting to have friends to make the journey with. Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Tapatalk
Glad you’re still hanging in there kris. You’re right. It’s not easy. Thanks John for dropping by. I appreciate the work you’ve done to create safe harbours like this one and to contribute to the waves of prejudice being gradually quelled.
wayfarer wrote:Faith, to me, is no longer pretending to know crap.
I’m writing that one down.
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