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SamBee wrote:
I don’t think it’s worth dying for tea/coffee.
Agreed. You gotta pick your battles, huh?
I guess if you chose to be a martyr for the WoW cause, King Gustav’s experiment would conclude that one lives longer drinking coffee than refusing it
:shifty: Here’s an odd one. I got myself a stye recently, but luckily it didn’t develop as badly as a friend’s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stye
Quote:The primary mode of treatment for a stye is application of warm compresses. Incision and drainage is performed if resolution does not begin in the next 48 hours after warm compresses are started. The best home cure is to dip tissue into warm (not hot) tea and drape it on your face for 5 minutes.
Apart from the idea of this being messy and a bit yucky, is this against the Word of Wisdom?!
(I treat my styes, if and when I get them by opening my eyes underwater in the bath, before I use soap.
Verse 9 of Section 89 says hot drinks are not for the body or the belly. Verse 10 says all wholesome herbs have been ordained by God for the use of man. Let the tea cool down like it says so it isn’t hot and use it a wholesome herb.
If it is going in your eye, it’s not a drink. And tea is merely implied, anyway, not specifically forbidden. My eye’s still bothering me. Not to bad though, thank goodness. Tea compress… hmm… I did try using it once for an earache though… If it works, I would do it and wouldn’t think twice. Mormons don’t ban alcohol or caffeine in medicines; we drink Nyquil and NoDoze as needed, and nobody bats an eye. mormonheretic wrote:If it works, I would do it and wouldn’t think twice. Mormons don’t ban alcohol or caffeine in medicines; we drink Nyquil and NoDoze as needed, and nobody bats an eye.
That is SO TRUE!!
I have spoken to plenty of Mormons who admit to taking NyQuil to help them relax or fall asleep.
I go to a singles ward and I know plenty of people who regularly partake of energy drinks to keep them awake for odd hour jobs and studying for tests.
I personally always saw the Word of Wisdom as a means to avoid addiction.
When I was attending college I drank energy drinks very regularly. If I didn’t have my energy drink at the usual time I would begin to have a mild headache and a slight sense of anxiety.
I know plenty of people who need their Starbucks every day or else they will have a similar reaction.
Currently I will have a cup of coffee every once in awhile. I don’t feel the absolute need to have it though because I only drink one coffee mug.
I frequently drink green tea, which has plenty of health benefits. I personally enjoy that it is a 0 calorie drink that can boost my metabolism so it’s technically a negative calorie drink. When I don’t have my green tea I do not feel anxious nor do I have any headache issues.
I started drinking Irish Breakfast tea. It will be interesting to see if I have any kind of withdrawal if I make it a daily habit and then suddenly stop. I’ll let you all know if I do. I don’t think I will though because 1 cup of black breakfast tea has less caffeine than one cup of coffee.
I also agree with MH – but . . . if you can’t stop drinking something that you’re not taking for a pre-existing condition (iow, if you start drinking something to stay awake or for more energy and can’t stop drinking it), you are chemically addicted. That’s why I follow the letter of the law, so to speak, with regard to the Word of Wisdom but believe in the higher spirit of the law. In saying that, I don’t mean a follow a “stricter” interpretation with more prohibitions (like all caffeinated drinks) or a “looser” interpretation with fewer prohibitions (like drinking beer as a “mild barley drink”). What I mean is that I believe in the principle of agency and the need to maintain it, so I try to avoid any and all unnecessary addictions and live as healthy a life as I can – and allow all the same privilege, let them consume when, how or what they may.
Tea compress… useless. Very salty water (which stung) did work. By the way, while I don’t have an issue with alcohol in medicines, I do think Taurine is very nasty. It can bring on epileptic fits.
Old-Timer wrote:I also agree with MH – but . . . if you can’t stop drinking something that you’re not taking for a pre-existing condition (iow, if you start drinking something to stay awake or for more energy and can’t stop drinking it), you are chemically addicted.
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Completely! I am in this boat. Sadly I must drink about 2 liters of Dt. Dew a day. I am not proud of it, but when I don’t I am not fun to be around and I can’t concentrate at work. But the bishop just chuckled when I mentioned it during the temple interview.
:wtf: Quote:But the bishop just chuckled when I mentioned it during the temple interview.
Maybe his stash is Coke or Pepsi.
My own grandfather, a Mormon pillar of the community, was a caffeinated soft drink-aholic at a pretty high level.
Brown wrote:Completely! I am in this boat. Sadly I must drink about 2 liters of Dt. Dew a day. I am not proud of it, but when I don’t I am not fun to be around and I can’t concentrate at work. But the bishop just chuckled when I mentioned it during the temple interview.
I’m right there with you, Brown. My vice is Mountain Dew Code Red. I’m usually working on projects until late and my 9 mo. old gets up too early. Today I was up with her at 5:15 am. That’s almost as bad as early morning seminary! Being up with her is a lot more enjoyable than seminary was, though.
But I’m in the camp that thinks diet sodas are worse for me than regular sodas, and because of the massive amounts of sugar in those, I think those are worse than coffee. You think your bishop would chuckle about that?
😆 caffeine comes in tablet form: far less expensive, and none of the bad side-effects of diet drinks or processed sugars. wayfarer wrote:caffeine comes in tablet form: far less expensive, and none of the bad side-effects of diet drinks or processed sugars.
That’s the alternative my wife and I are moving to. Still not in the spirit of the WoW, though. I’ve found myself re-evaluating the whole thing because it doesn’t make too much sense to me anymore.
I should clarify: The alcohol, tobacco and drugs parts make perfect sense to me. Alcohol because my father is a serious alcoholic and tobacco and drugs, well, there is plenty of evidence/reasons to abstain from those, IMO.
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