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    This morning when I checked my email there was a message in there about upcoming fourth Sunday lessons for PH/RS. Since I don’t go, I usually just delete them but since I figured I might go sometimes in the next 6 months I looked. In the back of my mind I was thinking “I should respond and ask why Pres. Uchtdorf’s talk isn’t on the list,” but much to my surprise one of the conference talks the bishop chose for 4th Sundays is Pres. Uchtdorf’s. :thumbup:

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    :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

    Now let’s hope it’s not twisted into a lecture about not doubting faith but only doubting doubt. :P

    Seriously, though, I really am happy to see that.

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    I was happy to see it, too, Ray, and had the same thought. I actually feel sorry for those who only get “doubt your doubts” out of that talk – especially since there is context to that catchphrase. In my head I’ve even tossed around the idea of volunteering to teach that lesson.

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    I think you teaching it would be a very good thing – for multiple reasons that don’t need to be listed here. :thumbup:

    If you don’t end up teaching it, it might be good to construct the lesson you would teach if you were asked to do so. Just avoid the inclination to compare it to what ends up being taught. ;)

    #275733
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    They may as well rename the talk

    “Doubt your doubts”

    It is what I hear people key in on at church, including my home teachers who just visited last Sunday. That really resonated with a lot of people.

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    I’m glad that resonates with a lot of people. I really am, since I know it will help a lot of people to focus on that.

    I just wish, collectively, we were better at looking more closely at everything someone says and not just a small, easily digestible part. Of course, in saying that, I have to admit we here aren’t perfect at it, either – so we ought to grant others the grace to take what they can while we do the same. After all, that probably is the only way to live the spirit of what Pres. Uchtdorf said.

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    DarkJedi wrote:

    This morning when I checked my email there was a message in there about upcoming fourth Sunday lessons for PH/RS. Since I don’t go, I usually just delete them but since I figured I might go sometimes in the next 6 months I looked. In the back of my mind I was thinking “I should respond and ask why Pres. Uchtdorf’s talk isn’t on the list,” but much to my surprise one of the conference talks the bishop chose for 4th Sundays is Pres. Uchtdorf’s. :thumbup:

    Oh, man. I hope, hope, hope it’s on the list in our stake. We need it – all of it, not just one phrase.

    #275736
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    If it’s on our list then I will also volunteer to teach it.

    I was devastated by the butchering the Elder Holland talk got in Priesthood. It became a lecture on how the apostles hadn’t had enough faith to heal the son and would have denied a miracle if the saviour hadn’t been present and how we can end up denying people miracles if we lack faith!!!!

    Anyway… I think we need to remember that ‘doubt your doubts’ is very good advice to us.

    It will be 1-year tomorrow since I joined this forum. Sometimes I can feel absolutely certain about things that I now doubt. I feel absolutely certain that Brigham Young was a racist who instituted the black ban with no revelation. But I’ve learnt that I can’t know that for certain. I wasn’t there. There could be another explanation. So I choose to be willing to feel less certain about that conclusion. I allow room to doubt the negative history.

    But in doubting it I’m motivated to continue studying it. I force myself to consider “on the other hand…”

    There are many other hands.

    Having said all that, it would be a shame if it only was a lesson about “doubt your doubts.”

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    Heber13 wrote:

    They may as well rename the talk

    “Doubt your doubts”

    It is what I hear people key in on at church, including my home teachers who just visited last Sunday. That really resonated with a lot of people.

    I get your point Heber13, but I thnk the talk is appropriately titled. It would be a terrible shame to rename it for one line that was sort of beside the topic. It did seem to resonate with lots of members, though. I actually had someone mention it to me and politely told him he needed to reread the line in context. I haven’t heard back.

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