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This maybe should be general but I found it helpful and Support-ive. My oldest millennial daughter used her time in church yesterday to highlight JS 1832 First Vision Account. It came up in class (I know we are all surprised), and with the Bishop in the room, she popped up her hand and gave a short dissertation on 1832 account. She was so dang proud of herself, she couldn’t wait to text me. As a kid who loves the church she has had to find her way forward while her hero – her dad and eventually me, have been taking steps back. She is pretty open with us and asks questions. She has a different viewpoint. Yet – for some unexplained reason, she wants to be a foot soldier of enlightenment in this era of faith transitions.
As a Mom I was super happy for her success. It made my day, and brought a ray of hope for the future.
That’s great Mom! I’m happy for you, your husband, and your daughter. I’m more partial to the 1832 version than the others for several reasons. It was written by Joseph himself, it is the closest in time to the actual event, and it seems more to the point of why Joseph went to pray to begin with. The earlier versions seem to focus more on Joseph being forgiven of his sins than the idea of the restoration, although all the versions speak some of both of those. I didn’t go to SS yesterday, I really dislike the way our GD teacher teaches and he is also a hardcore old school orthodox kind of guy – he’s got more than three strikes. But in F&TM reference was made to the 1838 (PoGP) version and how all the other churches are wrong (which is not really what it says). That same individual made reference to Jesus being our brother, which I don’t fully disagree with but don’t think we should go around saying all the time. Alas, I did not have the inclination or energy to go up and refute (I have not stood up in F&TM in well over a decade, although I often take issue with some things that are said).
I’m glad there are young people like your daughter out there trying to do the right thing and open some eyes. The loss of Millennials is damaging because I think they would mostly be like your daughter were they to stick around.
I bet she sounded respectable…like someone who knows more than to just regurgitate comments in class…but actually have thought-provoking and informed contributions to class. That’s pretty cool. Makes me wonder if they’ll consider her for a teaching assignment. Way to parent!
The apple does not fall far from the tree. Or should I not use the word “fall” 
Quote:The apple does not fall far from the tree. Or should I not use the word “fall”
Looking – We believe in applesauce in this family. Let them “fall” where they may.
mom3 wrote:As a Mom I was super happy for her success. It made my day, and brought a ray of hope for the future.
Good on you, mom. This episode and that you’re all muddling through together. Curious to know: did it seem like the lesson was going to go by without talking about other accounts, and was there any discussion after she added it?
We haven’t had the lesson yet.
A theory from Facebook today: If I was reading it right, the 1832 was actually a later event (partly believes this because of age discrepancies) in which he comes
backafter the initial vision concerned about his sins. I don’t feel too vexed or interested in the situation anymore, but the discrepancies do concern many and should be addressed/introduced in SS. I am happy to read this. You are doing the parenting thing right. Old Timer wrote:I am happy to read this. You are doing the parenting thing right.
I guess that is why she is “mom v3”!Ann asked Quote:Curious to know: did it seem like the lesson was going to go by without talking about other accounts, and was there any discussion after she added it?
That was the feeling I got from her explanation. Either it was just brushed by or not really acknowledged. She said she hesitated a bit then decided to take the plunge. She is fairly savvy in her religious discourse’s. She had some fantastic professors at BYU, both whom she took classes from and worked on their personal TA projects with. She uses that as many of her jumping off spots. It gives her some cred in class. From there she takes stuff we have discussed, the essays, and other readings on things like the BYU 100 hour board. Then she cobbles together a pretty viable answer. No one gave her push back. I don’t know how much discussion continued on it. But she felt she was as thorough as the circumstances allowed.
I kind of wish I had been a mouse in the corner to watch it. Hopefully I will be there some other time when she does speak up.
Mom3, way to go to your daughter! I would to see the 1832 version of the First Vision emphasized more in the church. Members of the church need to know about it. I love that I am starting to hear expanded comments in church. Recently I heard someone say Joseph Smith was not the flawless man that we are prone to assume, and that God can work through imperfect people. (Even perhaps if they say things like “I could never lead you astray.”) 😮
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