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Just how political was Jesus?
Read “Jesus Before Christianity” by Albert Nolan. Really interesting stuff.
Just ordered it from the library.
Tom Haws wrote:Awesome, Enoch!
I have to say I am not a podster, and so I have to sit at my computer to listen. So the podcast was very long. And yet I sat through the entire thing (over the course of about a week since this thread was started). Thanks for doing it. Much of it was refresher, but it was good refresher. I think I have been exposed by PBS “From Jesus to Christ” and so forth.
Tom
Tom, if you have a CD player that will play .mp3s you can burn them to a disc and listen to them that way, or many mobile devices these days can play .mp3 files.
Actually, I did buy an mp3 player and I tried it out, but it never really caught on for me. I’m not sure why. But I do remember listening to the Jeppson guy’s episode on a morning jog. I no longer jog, and I no longer have been using the mp3 player. Tom Haws wrote:Actually, I did buy an mp3 player and I tried it out, but it never really caught on for me. I’m not sure why. But I do remember listening to the Jeppson guy’s episode on a morning jog. I no longer jog, and I no longer have been using the mp3 player.
Maybe you’re like me, part of the older generation, which likes silence some of the time!
I find MP3 players best for audio books rather than long reams of music.
SamBee wrote:silence…!
Heh. Indeed. Gone are the days when I would instinctively turn on KFYI conservative talk (then KTAR news/talk, then KCTK Christian talk and NPR) talk radio whenever in the car. I wonder how many sweet and tender sayings of my young children I missed. No matter, I knew all the dirt on Bill Clinton.
:crazy: 😆 😆 😆 If you’re out and about, it’s sometimes nice to listen to the birds and the car sounds!
We don’t really have any radio like that here, just a few phone in stations where people blither on about sport.
I just finished the podcast. Two things come to mind. Well, actually three. The first is that Jared says, “Ya know” about a billion times, which really bothered me.
The other two are…
1. JD keeps coming back that Jared really has “no belief” and that many people will say he is taking the easy way out. Jared says he “open to the possibility, but just doesn’t know…” a gazillion times. I’m not criticizing him for this, as this is how I feel. I think Jared probably, like myself, is an agnostic. This is one strategy to remain LDS. It allows the individual to be “noncommittal” to all the cat crap in the sandbox, while remaining part of the community.
2. Jared states JS might have been like many of the great and charismatic leaders of our history, like MLK and JFK, who were surrounded by women and had a lot of sexual energy, which may explain the whole the polygamy thing. I think this makes sense. I have a GREAT respect for both MLK and JFK — yet, history has shown they had a “weakness” for the ladies, and, even though (I believe they were divinely inspired by god), they allowed their biological instincts to “tarnish” their legacy. I feel like I have a great line of communication with the gods. I have never cheated on my wife, but I certainly have a “weakness” for the ladies myself. I get that – that one can be both at the same time.
I think, like Jared states, that JS had some tremendous spiritual insights, but —- he had some serious flaws and liked the ladies. As long as one doesn’t have to think in black and white, all good or all bad, all true or all false, one can see how JS could be a “prophet” receiving new spiritual insight for our time, and still be a scumbag that thinks, like the rest of us, with his penis on occasion. I think I can put JS in that category and move on.
Overall, it was a great podcast, IMO.
Are we talking about the same podcast episodes cwald? I don’t remember any of this in the NT one, except the part about “I don’t know but am open to the possibility” Hmmmmm? Yeah probably not. I don’t have it listed as such now that i checked – no title, it just says podcast 27,28, 29. I wonder what podcast that was that I listened to, who it was? i thought it was the NT one i downloaded, but no, it wasn’t. Hmmm? I guess I apologize to this Jared feller, and hope I didn’t just insult one of our administrators or something if it is one of them.
Anyway — it still made some good points and was well done – whoever the hell it was talking to JD.
Maybe I got abducted last night? I feel like an idiot. Dan Witherspoon maybe? Just forget I said anything. Hmmm…. 27-29 are John Dehlin’s own story, so it would not be an interview. If you got abducted you should talk about it on Mormon Stories
Yeah, I wish I could blame it on being drunk or something, but… I think it was the Dan Witherspoon podcast, but I’m Spring Break so I have listened to about a gazillion podcast this week and can’t put names to anything anymore or quotes and such. Just forget I said anything.
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