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Does he read the mormon boards? NOM? MD, STAYLDS, Reddit etc. Details about his church court.
[img]http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/HauglidBOA.jpg [/img] http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/” class=”bbcode_url”> THE BRIAN HAUGLID: BOOK OF ABRAHAM INTERVIEW IS UP!!!!!
Today I sit down with LDS Scholar Brian Hauglid as we talk at length about the Book of Abraham. We speak at length about the historical issues with the the Book of Abraham and what we are to make of those complexities. I hope you enjoy this conversation and that it is helpful in your effort to both understand deeper issues while leading with faith!
Interesting interview, but it changes nothing for me. The BoA wasn’t the cause of my FC, but’s always been a huge issue for me. My entire life in the church, I’ve been taught that the prophets, especially JS, receive direct revelation from God. I’ve been taught that JS translated the BoM word for word from the plates, that the BoA is a direct translation for the papyri. Brian Hauglid presents in essence that JS was influenced by the philosophies of the day and it leaked into the BoM and BoA translations. My take away: “Philosophies of men mingled with scripture.” I’m happy that he at least admits that the BoA is a problem. DBMormon wrote:
[img]http://www.faithagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/quinn1.jpg [/img] the enigmatic D. Michael Quinn has agreed to appear on the podcast in February. I am so excited as he is one of those figures in Mormonism who intrigues the daylight out of me.
What Questions do you have for him? This is your chance!
– Who wrote the Book of Mormon?
– Did Joseph’s magical world view potentially contribute to him wanting to bring forth a sacred, mystical book (I’m not presuming, in that question, that it’s a fabrication)
– When will his book on church finances come out? What are his sources (if possible) or can he tell us whether he will be drawing on any previously not released financial sources.
DBMormon wrote:[img]http://www.faithagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/quinn1.jpg [/img] the enigmatic D. Michael Quinn has agreed to appear on the podcast in February. I am so excited as he is one of those figures in Mormonism who intrigues the daylight out of me.
What Questions do you have for him? This is your chance!
I have heard interviews with him where he listed items such as diaries and objects (ie seerstones) that he had access to during the Camelot years that had since been locked away in the first presidency vault. During this new current period of openness, are there any documents that are being kept away from researchers? Will the church ever display a seer stone?
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My question for D. Michael Quinn would be if he has any regrets? That question is super broad and I intend it to be.
A more specific version of this question would be: Do you feel that you have been able to accomplish more from outside the church than you would have been able to accomplish inside the church (presumably walking a fine line of “faithful” scholarship in the manner or Richard Bushman, Todd Compton, & others).
What are the advantages and disadvantages (as he sees them) of these two writing and scholarly perspectives?
DBMormon wrote:[img]http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/HauglidBOA.jpg [/img] http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/” class=”bbcode_url”> THE BRIAN HAUGLID: BOOK OF ABRAHAM INTERVIEW IS UP!!!!!
Today I sit down with LDS Scholar Brian Hauglid as we talk at length about the Book of Abraham. We speak at length about the historical issues with the the Book of Abraham and what we are to make of those complexities. I hope you enjoy this conversation and that it is helpful in your effort to both understand deeper issues while leading with faith!
Interesting interview, but what was the point? He acknowledged the issues but just shrugged them off basically. Of course if you want to believe it has a shed of the divine in it not sure there is much else you can do
Great to have the interview but was kind of sad that it was so short. And yes. There was no real outcome other than : yes. I doesn’t make sense. Live with it. And that is really hard for me. To me tboa is as close as a smoking gun evidence we can get that JS simply made things up (wether he knew it or not is another discussion). Like fox moulder from x files “I want to believe!” But it’s SO dang hard for me when it comes to tboa. That and polygamy is just a mess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My take away with the Hauglid interview was validation that the issues are problematic and we can’t excuse them or brush them away. All church members are going to have to come to terms with less “knowing” and more “hope” and “Faith” I thought it was nice that a credible scholar is saying this doesn’t fit well and your not crazy for not being able to make it fit.
DBMormon wrote:My take away with the Hauglid interview was validation that the issues are problematic and we can’t excuse them or brush them away. All church members are going to have to come to terms with less “knowing” and more “hope” and “Faith”
I thought it was nice that a credible scholar is saying this doesn’t fit well and your not crazy for not being able to make it fit.
Thanks DBMormon! I agree with your assessment. Looking for the divine spark inside the humanity of it all when we were expecting the miraculous is quite an adjustment. I am gad that we as a church are starting to accept some of things that do not fit into the narrative of our youth. RSR, the JS papers project, Massacre at Mountain Meadows, the essays, and so much more are moving us in this direction of becoming a more mature faith.
Roy wrote:Looking for the divine spark inside the humanity of it all when we were expecting the miraculous is quite an adjustment.
It is. It reminds me of a time in my youth when I realized I was going to eventually reach adulthood and I would have to move out and stand on my own. At the time it wasn’t appealing to me, I wanted to stay sheltered and cared for by my parents. At some point we need to let the process of maturing change us.
Bear wrote:Great to have the interview but was kind of sad that it was so short. And yes. There was no real outcome other than : yes. I doesn’t make sense. Live with it. And that is really hard for me.
I think you’ve touched on something. I don’t know about everyone but an element of my faith crisis was struggling to come to grips with the feeling that some questions in life don’t have answers. Sometimes there’s no reason behind things. Realizing that some things just don’t make sense and we have to live with them never feels good.
I think that’s one of the reasons apologetics rings so hollow for some people. Apologetics is an exercise in finding the reason behind things. If we struggle to come up with the answer to a question just to have the comedy of life reveal to us that the answer is that there’s no answer apologetics start to feel like wasted effort.
Sometimes acknowledging that there’s no answer helps establish a more realistic environment that can help us work through things.
True Believing Atheist Mormon:http://mormondiscussionpodcast.orghttp://mormondiscussionpodcast.org” class=”bbcode_url”> Today we sit down with Mike B. who shares with us that he is both an atheist and a Believing Mormon. How is that? How can one both disbelieve God and testify of the restoration? Today we find out. You won’t want to miss this as Mike gives us a paradigm and framework that might work for many who have lost faith and can’t seem to find it. He shows us how one’s personal disbelief should not stand in the way of ultimate faith.
If any of you are engineers or scientists at heart, you will like the logic in this interview! Thanks for responding… I thought it was good as well and right up the logical person’s alley
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