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cwald wrote:hawkgrrrl wrote:
… I refuse to spend
more than $200on a designer handbag…. Wh wha what?
200 dollars for a HANDBAG! wtf?
I think your tagline says, “Gender=Male”. You aren’t supposed to understand.In like manner, my DW will complain that I spent $500 for my a single club in my golf-bag…
Warning – Reply may be long – feel free to leave if you get bored. I have loved this thread. I grew up in a ward that had “real” models in it. My laurel advisor was a runway model and a Vogue model. We had great lessons about naked women sitting around waiting to be dressed. It was also very easy to totally spend the entire class time analyzing her make-up, or how she plucked her eyebrows. That wasn’t all though I had young women counterparts who also were involved in appearance related pursuits. One was a Miss Cal. contestant and winner. Multiple girls were photo shoot girls for companies like REI, milk, etc. Another one modeled for Nordstrom. All in all – appearance was a big thing in the ward I attended. It didn’t have to be expensive, just look that way. There also did seem to be more books, youth speakers, etc who talked, demonstrated and modeled beauty, at least for the girls.
I’ve moved away 20 years ago, my parents changed wards. They moved up from where we were, and their ward had a lot of stylish members. Women who wore great hats, had their nails done, etc. etc. They were also friendly, welcoming, and inviting. They lived in gorgeous homes that they took great pride in decorating, and sharing with others. They always were hosting events, and making life merry and warm. The typical Mormon standard division came home in this ward when they received a set of sister missionaries. Here came the sister in their standard attire. Hiking along with backpacks slung over their backs, marching up long brick drive ways to knock on people’s doors. Now these gentiles were not just wealthy they were pillars of communities, famous football players and coaches, business CEO’s, former national ambassadors. At the time of the sisters arrival my mom was the RS pres. She could see the problem as plain as day. So she took a two fold approach. She wrote the mission president and instructed him to get the girls some money for appearance improvement, then she and the sisters warmly, took the girls under their wings and played “What Not To Wear” or better yet “Charm lessons” from League of the Own. Either way it worked. The transformation was phenomenal and set a mission standard in the area.
Over the past few days as I’ve read the thread and remembered what I learned I took a good look in the mirror, my two selves had a good talk. Out of the rolodex of my memory I’m calling back the lessons I knew and have discarded. Frump, even if your frugal, is so yesterday. Thanks everyone. Here endeth the lesson.
Quote:Hi. I’m Doug. I have really bad taste … and I’m a Mormon.
Hmmm. I’ll have to think about posting that with a video.
I have lots of excuses for having bad taste. I’m a guy, I’m cheap, and I’m an engineer. But I will push some of the blame, at least for my Sunday attire, off onto the church. My program of malicious compliance dictates that I wear a short-sleeve white shirt and khaki pants every Sunday.
One of the main problems I see is that thrifty does equate frump. And that is not necessarily so, a person can dress stylish on a cheaper budget. Of course I also feel that most of the women who dress frumpy, have self esteem issues. When a person feels good about themselves they tend to take better care of their looks.
The one thing that irritates me to no end is how LDS decorate their homes and keep their yards. Where I am at, the LDS members are bad about having really sloppy yards. Sure there are a few that have nice yards, but most are half taken care of and look bad. Back to homes…what the heck is with all the stuff???? I mean I understand food storage, sure…but really what is with the stacks of magazines and blankets on the couches and kitchens never being clean? yes it worse in LDS homes than other homes, at least that has been my experience.
I think women in “prairie dresses” or moo moos at church is sooooo unattractive. Makes me think I am a FLDS meeting. Men bug me when they have shirts that are not ironed and are wearing a faded pair of dockers that have not seen an ironing board since they were on the rack at Sears. Not saying you have to spend a ton on clothing heaven knows I do not, but come on take a little pride in your self. As a Saturday Night Live skit said so many years ago. “it is better to look good than to feel good”. This has been said, kind of, but as far as women go, I think the whole garment requirement really saddles the females and what they can wear. jwald is the cutest little thing, petite and brown, and, well looks really good tank tops and skirts, and in many of the stylish cloths that garment wearing doesn’t accommodate for. Take the garments out of the picture and it would really make a difference on how a woman dresses, AND, AND —- I don’t think it has to be immodest at all, not one bit. Really, a little bit of shoulder and back is not immodest on my planet. Now, myself – I just don’t care. I’m a crappy dresser regardless of whether I am wearing garments or not.
cwald wrote:hawkgrrrl wrote:… I refuse to spend
more than $200on a designer handbag…. Wh wha what?
200 dollars for a HANDBAG! wtf?
Now that’s bad taste at the other extreme. More sense than money…
Plus the folk that made the thing were probably getting paid a cent a day or something.
Don’t get me wrong here, I think it’s possible to dress okay on a reasonable budget. My gripe isn’t with cheap clothes, or dowdy clothes, it’s with bad color combinations, eye searing fashions, bad religious pictures (in homes, books and websites) and some out of place architecture.
cwald wrote:This has been said, kind of, but as far as women go, I think the whole garment requirement really saddles the females and what they can wear. jwald is the cutest little thing, petite and brown, and, well looks really good tank tops and skirts, and in many of the stylish cloths that garment wearing doesn’t accommodate for. Take the garments out of the picture and it would really make a difference on how a woman dresses, AND, AND —- I don’t think it has to be immodest at all, not one bit. Really, a little bit of shoulder and back is not immodest on my planet.
Now, myself – I just don’t care. I’m a crappy dresser regardless of whether I am wearing garments or not.
Just buy her garments two sizes too big…I can wear my garments with low backs due to the fact that I have lost weight and now they are all too big.
😈 Oh heck I can wear low cut in the front too!I was wanting to talk a bit about architecture. Now while I find the interiors of SLC temple beautiful (in the pictures I’ve seen), am I the only one to find the outside ugly? It reminds me of Star Wars. Don’t get me wrong, I love a lot of the other temples, such as Kirtland and Nauvoo and some of the modern ones. SamBee wrote:I was wanting to talk a bit about architecture. Now while I find the interiors of SLC temple beautiful (in the pictures I’ve seen), am I the only one to find the outside ugly? It reminds me of Star Wars. Don’t get me wrong, I love a lot of the other temples, such as Kirtland and Nauvoo and some of the modern ones.
Salt Lake Temple reminds you of Star Wars? I don’t see that. When I’m on the east coast, the temple near me is called “Disneyland on the Beltway”. It also has a resemblance of the Emerald City, and for the longest time, there was a bit of grafitti on a railroad bridge over the beltway saying “Surrender Dorothy”.I think architecture of the SLC, Logan, Manti and DC temples are awesome. Provo temple —- not so much. Well, if we’re talking architecture, how about those cookie-cutter stake centers/chapels with those horrid fiberglass steeples. Yuck. cwald wrote:I think architecture of the SLC, Logan, Manti and DC temples are awesome. Provo temple —- not so much.
you mean the white birthday cake with a big candle on it? What’samatter with that?…that joke was in bad taste, Wayfarer. 
I don’t know. I’ve had cake at the Provo Temple, and it tasted pretty good.
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