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    I avoid some topics with some people.

    #255539
    Anonymous
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    Yes you absolutely have to avoid some topics with some people. I am simply wondering about the possibility of helping those who may be ready to progress a little further toward a greater love and understanding — to maybe initiate a ripple effect.

    It happens, I know it does. I’m just trying to see where I may be able to help.

    #255540
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    So I have been FB chatting with an ultra conservative friend of mine about gay and SS-marriage issues. Today I got this reply:

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    People tend to look at gays always as the victim, forgetting the victims that have been harmed by gay people.

    Being gay has become synonymous with a being a victim. People pride themselves when they stick up for the gay community, thinking they are sticking up for the mistreated and victimized group. I’m not saying you’re doing that. But there are MANY that are.

    ??? (and I just had a weird deja vu moment here) I don’t know what to think of that, could he be for real? I mean I can see the outspoken political activists that don’t act at all like victims, entitlement sounds more fitting, but as a whole? Does he only see the political group as gay?

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    If he doesn’t know anyone closely who is gay, or if the only gay people he knows are the most vocal activist type, he probably is speaking the “truth” that he sees or about which he reads.

    He’s wrong, but he has no clue from personal experience that he is wrong.

    I can’t be angry at something I pity so much.

    #255542
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    Old-Timer wrote:

    I can’t be angry at something I pity so much.

    I hear ya, I was just very surprised. The puzzle is I think he was very seriously dating a lesbian at one point, trying to really make it work and make it good. I don’t know, I guess some things are just difficult to understand.

    #255543
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    Maybe he really liked/loved her and assumed he could help her change – that his love could overcome her attraction to other women – that he was in a position to be “savior” for her. Maybe his failure to do that caused bitterness. Maybe he saw it eventually as willful rejection of love and the Atonement. Maybe he extrapolated that onto all gay people.

    I don’t know. Those are all maybes – but any one or all of them could explain a lot.

    #255544
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    Yes, could very well be.

    He also lives very near the Bible belt and I think is influenced by that community norm.

    #255545
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    Ugh. People are morons. I had no fracking clue what they were on about on Facebook with this Chik-Fil-A nonsense at first. We don’t have Chik-Fil-A in Singapore, and I have only eaten there twice in the US. It’s not my kind of place.

    Personally, I think any CEO who is making divisive political statements in a public forum that alienate members of the public including his customers and employees is an idiot. That’s my stance on this one. I’m not buying his sandwiches (which contain both bread and breading, natch) to show support for his bad PR chops. He’s a businessman, and he should have the professionalism to act like one and not let his emotions override his business interests. I’d hate to work for a guy like that. He’s unpredictable and lacks impulse control. He’s responsible for thousands of jobs, and he jeopardizes those jobs by not keeping his mouth shut. I don’t give a damn what he believes in private, but when he makes statements like this in a public forum, there will be fallout.

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