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Re yerba mate. I’ve always found it a strange drink particularly if prepared traditionally with the tiny cup, metal straw and virtually no fluid. And often shared like a joint. It’s probably never mentioned because los general authorities yanquis have never heard of it.
It is however very addictive (more than coffee) and very high in caffeine.
I really like the suggestion in an earlier post of going back to the original revelation and letting each member interpret what it means to live the Word of Wisdom. We ccould even still ask in the TR interview if they live the WofW. It seems to me we’ve built our own little “hedge” around the WofW. I quite like the WofW as it’s originally written. I think I’m a better person for never drinking alcohol as I’m pretty sure I’d like it, maybe too much. Most people are probably better off not using tobacco. However, I will try not to judge someone for having a different “interpretation” than the traditionally accepted standard.
As a rule of thumb, it’s worth asking if you could survive without X for a month. Moderation… moderation….
SamBee wrote:As a rule of thumb, it’s worth asking if you could survive without X for a month.
Moderation… moderation….
ExactlySamBee wrote:Re yerba mate. I’ve always found it a strange drink particularly if prepared traditionally with the tiny cup, metal straw and virtually no fluid. And often shared like a joint.
It’s probably never mentioned because los general authorities yanquis have never heard of it.
It is however very addictive (more than coffee) and very high in caffeine.
I just brew mine up like regular tea. Yeah, it has caffeine, but mine says it has 2/3 the caffeine of an equal serving of coffee. From what I understand it doesn’t get you wired like coffee does and I don’t get jitters our headaches when I choose a roobois or other tea instead.
The church’s recent statement on caffeine has made their choice of what’s restricted seem even more arbitrary, so I live the letter of their law along the ‘don’t list’ and try to live the spirit of the law as far as the healthy living or the ‘do list’ goes.
I believe that what we put in our body multiple times a day (meals) have a far greater impact to our physical selves than an infrequent beverage. I am not sure how all this relates to the spiritual side, but that it’s something I struggle with on multiple facets.
Personally I feel like saying caffeine wasnt the problem was as first step in sort of walking back the emphasis placed on the WoW. My gut says it might take a while but I think the church will eventually take it back to when abstention was encouraged but not required for baptism or TR. When I think about how many people I met on my mission that would have been awesome members if they didn’t have to give up sweet tea it’s crazy. And how many less actives were only so because of the WoW…
I just think is a hard line to walk. It started with prohibition when the majority of the country was doing it….and we just havent moved on…. But if the church stepped back from it tomorrow then how many TBMs would instantly become disillusioned. I know I’ve met people that were hit by the caffeine thing pretty hard. They feel like they’ve been denying themselves something for no reason. i guess they get a little taste of how we all feel about larger doctrines. Sort of a mini fc. It also eliminated their ability to be holier than thou about it though. I like that part…
Here’s to hoping the process gets sped up!
:thumbup: Wuwei, I think you’ve got a very healthy (pardon the pun) attitude on this. Even though I don’t think God cares one way or the other if I have a beer, I generally only have one when I’m away from my home town. If my DW had a problem with it (thankfully, she doesn’t) I wouldn’t imbibe at all. I think I Corinthians Ch. 8 is instructive here – I’d hate for one of the YM or YW from my ward to see me buying a six-pack and have them lose their faith because of my actions. So even though I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a beer, I choose not to except on rare occasions, because I don’t want to offend my ward brothers and sisters.
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