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Thanks for all the helpful information. I have learned a lot. Donna wrote:how do you get your recommend. I may just to tell the Bishop how I feel. We need to serve . If the ward doesn’t want us I am sure we can volunteer some where. It is sad that people that want to serve in their ward aren’t given the opportunity. In our ward when your released you don’t get another calling soon sometimes it years.Its not that the ward have more people than callings. It that some people have 3 or 4 callings.
Hoping to move out of Utah before I die. LOL
Depending upon the local leadership, some can and will withhold the temple recommend if you do not attend your geographical ward. They justify if in the sustaining your leadership part of the TR question. But I encourage you to talk to your bishop about the whole matter. I do know of others who were dying on the vine so to speak, who did that and the situation turned totally around for them. Sometimes local leadership becomes used to knowing that certain people will do their callings, call it inspiration and they forget to open their eyes to new move in’s.
:crazy: I have lived in my ward for a long time. There seems to be a pattern you get a calling, then get released and go years without a calling. We have had a couple of people in our ward publicly ask for a calling, go years without a calling and died never received a calling. I found this whole situation very wrong. We haven’t done anything to make any one upset at us. The first time it happened the SP asked me at my TR interview what calling I had I said my husband and I haven’t had a calling for years. He said we would be getting a calling. He talked to the Bishop and made sure we got a calling. My husband went from ward mission leader and a HT to no calling. I don’t understand why this is happening. I did say something once to a member of the Bishopric and I was told that it wasn’t right.I have thought about talking to the Bishop. i don’t think it could get much worst. If it does I could always stop going.
afterall wrote:Depending upon the local leadership, some can and will withhold the temple recommend if you do not attend your geographical ward. They justify if in the sustaining your leadership part of the TR question.
😈 I haven’t seen this myself, but I have attended other wards without any problem. If a bishop said this to me, I would just say “Doctrine & Covenants 121:37” then walk away. There is no requirement to be in any particular ward to get a temple recommend.Jazernorth wrote:There is no requirement to be in any particular ward to get a temple recommend.
I wish someone with access to the handbook could look this up. I was told this goes all the way back to Salt Lake Leadership.
I agree. It would be nice to know what Salt Lake says about this. I think it depends on where you live. I have relatives in other states that have moved out of there ward, still attend, hold leadership callings and TC. I think it is who you know. There was a family in our Ward. The SP threatened to yank their TR’s if they didn’t start attending their home Ward. It is confusing, I agree. Here is a link to the handbook – see if you can find where it says you have to attend “your ward” to get a temple recommend. None of the questions asked are about attending your ward.
https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/introduction?lang=eng There are lots of instances where problems would disappear if local leaders simply understood what the handbook says and not have personal rules that are stricter. I’m not saying the handbook is perfect, but, at the very least, we shouldn’t impose stricter rules. Personal experience here…… I have been a haphazard member for about 4 years now, meaning I attend between 2-3 times a month and only to Sacrament meeting. There have been some strings of 3 months where I didn’t attend at all. When it was temple recommend time, I answered all of the questions and got the recommend. I haven’t attended the temple in about 3 years, but I still get the recommend. There hasn’t been once where the bishop questioned my “attendance” or asked if I attended another ward. Why did I still get the recommend? Because I am still a good person who is still trying to follow the teaching (regardless of my feelings of earlier), therefore there is no reason to say no.
Attending another ward fits into the same scope – If you can answer all of the questions to the temple recommend interview, you pass.
Even if you do drink Coke …. some of you may remember that some bishop’s wouldn’t give temple recommends if they knew you drank Coke. You would have to remind the bishop that that question was not part of the interview questions….. Ergh… I have not problem setting bishops and stake presidents straight …..
:clap: I would not be surprised it they took your TR away if you went to another ward. My son couldn’t go on a mission because of poor health. The Bishop threaten to send our records to another ward two times. Even after the SP told him he couldn’t do it. I hope this hasn’t happened to anyone else. Not a whole lot would surprise me here in Utah. I think they make their own rules.
Old-Timer wrote:There are lots of instances where problems would disappear if local leaders simply understood what the handbook says and not have personal rules that are stricter. I’m not saying the handbook is perfect, but, at the very least, we shouldn’t impose stricter rules.
I couldn’t agree more, Ray. I am sometimes amazed at how a local leader can use the handbook to defend his actions just because it’s in there yet then say the handbook is just a guideline when doing something outside those same guidelines. The handbooks, IMO, are somewhat vague on purpose to allow us to follow the spirit, and they are really meant to be nothing more than statements of policy. I particularly dislike the use f the word “should” so frequently. Should is a strong word, but not strong enough in some cases where it’s used.
Jazernorth wrote:It is confusing, I agree.
Here is a link to the handbook – see if you can find where it says you have to attend “your ward” to get a temple recommend. None of the questions asked are about attending your ward.
https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/introduction?lang=eng This link is just to handbook 2. We need a look see at handbook 1 to determine what they are going by. Anyone have any connections to handbook 1? Bishops and stake presidents get this one.
Anyone know why some people are left Seventy’s even when they are told to go to the High Priest Group? Does the Bishop decided if a Seventy is made a High Priest or is it the Stake Presidents? I have also been told that any one who is still a Seventy should be made a High Priest. Anyone know what Salt Lake says about this? I just wanted to add I looked in the handbook and it makes no reference to someone who is still a Seventy. The information is for Elders and High Priests.
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