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March 28, 2014 at 3:03 pm #282507
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GuestOrson wrote:It fascinates me how we can often take the lessons taught by a Spock or Yoda, because we know they are a 10, more easily than someone that is presented as a 1 because we doubt the validity of their historicity.
Yes, that why they exist. In a way both figures are reminiscent of the old pagan gods of Rome (and elsewhere), who represented certain qualities, rather than a general figure like HF.
Spock is a god of logic, self-control, science and war.
Yoda is a god of mysticism, the elderly, nature and the warrior.
Spock get resurrected too, remember.
March 28, 2014 at 3:43 pm #282508Anonymous
GuestExactly, Orson. Just because some people (even most people in a particular culture) view someone historically as a real person and I don’t (say, Abraham, Job, Noah, Enoch, Jonah, etc., much less the figures in the Book of Mormon) doesn’t invalidate great lessons or teachings from their stories.
If I can use Bill’s and Ted’s classic, “Be excellent to each other,” as the basis for a talk about charity, why in the world should I hesitate to use Moroni’s wonderful discourse in Moroni 7 about not calling good evil or evil good – especially if I use those verses to make the exact same point as I did when I quoted obviously fictional movie characters? As I’ve said in other threads, I still am open to the idea that the Book of Mormon account is historical (and I use that frame of reference when I talk about it at church, knowing most people there see it that way, even if my view of that possibility is much more complicated than theirs), but, regardless of how I view it, the lessons and messages in it don’t change either way.
March 29, 2014 at 3:08 am #282509Anonymous
GuestWhoa. Funny how I never made that connection before. Mind minorly blown. Thanks, Orson and Ray. -
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