Nelson says gay policy is revelation

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DarkJedi wrote:

It occurred to me that declaring the policy revelation has done something else: it moves those who disagree with the policy closer to being apostates. I don’t want to blow it out of proportion or make mountains out of molehills, but I think it’s a serious concern. As I reflect on some of the conversations I have had about the policy here and elsewhere, it is hard to disagree with the policy while not saying the Brethren are wrong. If I do think it’s wrong and they’re wrong (by extension) I meet the latest definition of what apostasy is, especially in light of the policy being declared revelation. It could be just mild paranoia on my part, but I think it’s worth thinking about being careful what we say while not behind the veil of anonymity.

I have had some of the same thoughts. As I was doing my annual reading of MLK speeches yesterday, I remember years back wondering if I would have been a complacent bystander, an “enforcer” of the status quo, or standing up against racism. I don’t see myself as being an “enforcer”, but I couldn’t say if I would be complacent by-stander or if I would stand up and say it is wrong. I feel that I am in the same situation and I get to see what backbone I have. When I think of having to stand before my savior, I feel I have no choice but to stand up.

I think there is still room to say, “I have not received a witness from God that these are his words”. It may exclude me from being the next bishop (DANG :lolno: ), but I can’t say nothing. I will try and make sure I leave room for people that do feel it is of God.

Let the chips fall where they may.

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I’ve got to say… this Nelson says the gay policy is revelation thing didn’t move the needle at all among my orthodox friends, not like when the policy broke. I believe my orthodox friends already made the assumption that the new policy came about through revelation. For the orthodox that’s how policy gets set, right? I think that’s the same reason why this announcement didn’t really register much with me either, when I initially reacted to the new policy I was also reacting to the idea that the new policy would be regarded revelation. I fell like this was Nelson explicitly stating something that nearly every member had already assumed. Who knows maybe it’s something that even Nelson himself assumes about policy and revelation.

I’ll also say “Nelson says gay policy is revelation”

Well that’s news to me.

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Who knows maybe it’s something that even Nelson himself assumes about policy and revelation.

Honestly that was my thought also. Which frankly doesn’t speak highly of the process, in my book.

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hawkgrrrl wrote:

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Who knows maybe it’s something that even Nelson himself assumes about policy and revelation.

Honestly that was my thought also. Which frankly doesn’t speak highly of the process, in my book.

I agree – I see Nelson as one of the old-guard-black-and-white types. As such, I think he does equate policy and revelation, and probably believes all of the handbooks to be inspired/revelation. In his mind he probably wasn’t saying anything he thought people didn’t already know except with a description of what actually happened included.

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DarkJedi wrote:

It occurred to me that declaring the policy revelation has done something else: it moves those who disagree with the policy closer to being apostates.

That’s a great way to put it. I knew I was an apostate when the policy came out. Since I believe in the sacred institution of marriage between two consenting adults, regardless of gender, then, I am just as apostate as anyone practicing same-sex marriage. But the new wrinkle is that I am also an apostate for not accepting the policy as divinely inspired/revealed.

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DarkJedi wrote:

It occurred to me that declaring the policy revelation has done something else: it moves those who disagree with the policy closer to being apostates. I don’t want to blow it out of proportion or make mountains out of molehills, but I think it’s a serious concern.

I agree completely.

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