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I was told by a very reliable sister that the church is presently making adult lesson manuals like the present youth lessons are. Her brother works in the COB and told her. I don’t know when or anything else, but I was excited to hear it. That is today’s faith promoting rumor.
I have also heard it mentioned here: http://forum.staylds.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4440 One of the participants of this radio discussion mentioned a new teaching resource or manual that would be a help in the innoculation effort. He emphasized that this was NOT the new lessons for youth that were recently put into practice. I am hopeful that this comes to fruition.
Thanks Roy for the link. I had been out of town for a while and missed that thread. I really do hope it comes to pass not just to innoculate, though that might help, but also because I have heard the Gospel Doctrine lessons for so long, I always feel like it is a multiple choice lesson. Lesson Manuel Question –
Was Nephi a Prophet?
Answer options –
A. Yes
B. No
C. Move along.
We’ve heard the same stories and examples for so long it’s like being retained in a lower grade indefinitely. I love the freshness of the youth lessons.
mom3 wrote:Thanks Roy for the link. I had been out of town for a while and missed that thread. I really do hope it comes to pass.
No problem! I’m not sure if hearing it from a guy on the radio is more authoritative than the source you mentioned but at least now we have two unofficial sources.
mom3 wrote:We’ve heard the same stories and examples for so long it’s like being retained in a lower grade indefinitely. I love the freshness of the youth lessons.
I remember a few years ago having the same manual for both SS and RS/P – it was stated how the Lord often uses repetition and how wonderful it was. Funny how our culture is conditioned to talk about how wonderful the church programs are and find benefits and justifications for them even when sometimes – it was just a bad idea.
Talking of new manuals, I’ve heard Ezra Taft Benson is next for teachings of the presidents. Which will be more tolerable if they include:
Quote:
God, the Father of us all, uses the men of the earth, especially good men, to accomplish his purposes. It has been true in the past, it is true today, it will be true in the future.“Perhaps the Lord needs such men on the outside of His Church to help it along,” said the late Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve. “They are among its auxiliaries, and can do more good for the cause where the Lord has placed them, than anywhere else. … Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted … the beauties and glories of the gospel being veiled temporarily from their view, for a wise purpose. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. The Latter-day Saints cannot do it all. It is too vast, too arduous for any one people. … We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. They are our partners in a certain sense.” (Conference Report, April 1928, p. 59.)
Ezra Taft Benson in 1972
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civic-standards-for-the-faithful-saints?lang=eng Edit: I’m talking nonsense. It’s Joseph Fielding Smith!
If this is true, I hope I’m still teaching Gospel Doctrine when they come out. I try so hard to come up with a new way to present such familiar information and it can be exhausting! I’ve found that inserting little tid-bits of church history that most people have never heard can really perk up the ears of the people in my class. 
I actually had a sister come up to me after a class and tell me that she likes hearing the same lessons year after year because that is how God teaches us, by repetition. Funny, I always thought it was line upon line, precept upon precept. Not line upon line and then that first line again and then again and again and again…..
The difficulty of hearing the same lessons repeatedly is why I like to focus on one or two things in each lesson that I think are most important and have extensive discussion about them. I’m looking forward to the new manuals. I hope they don’t disappoint.
mackay11 wrote:Talking of new manuals, I’ve heard Ezra Taft Benson is next for teachings of the presidents.
Which will be more tolerable if they include:
Quote:
God, the Father of us all, uses the men of the earth, especially good men, to accomplish his purposes. It has been true in the past, it is true today, it will be true in the future.“Perhaps the Lord needs such men on the outside of His Church to help it along,” said the late Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve. “They are among its auxiliaries, and can do more good for the cause where the Lord has placed them, than anywhere else. … Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted … the beauties and glories of the gospel being veiled temporarily from their view, for a wise purpose. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. The Latter-day Saints cannot do it all. It is too vast, too arduous for any one people. … We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. They are our partners in a certain sense.” (Conference Report, April 1928, p. 59.)
Ezra Taft Benson in 1972
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civic-standards-for-the-faithful-saints?lang=eng What is the odds that the 14 fundamentals of the prophet ARE NOT referenced in this manual?
This will be a tell tale sign for me.
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cwald wrote:mackay11 wrote:Talking of new manuals, I’ve heard Ezra Taft Benson is next for teachings of the presidents.
Which will be more tolerable if they include:
Quote:
God, the Father of us all, uses the men of the earth, especially good men, to accomplish his purposes. It has been true in the past, it is true today, it will be true in the future.“Perhaps the Lord needs such men on the outside of His Church to help it along,” said the late Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Quorum of the Twelve. “They are among its auxiliaries, and can do more good for the cause where the Lord has placed them, than anywhere else. … Hence, some are drawn into the fold and receive a testimony of the truth; while others remain unconverted … the beauties and glories of the gospel being veiled temporarily from their view, for a wise purpose. The Lord will open their eyes in His own due time. God is using more than one people for the accomplishment of His great and marvelous work. The Latter-day Saints cannot do it all. It is too vast, too arduous for any one people. … We have no quarrel with the Gentiles. They are our partners in a certain sense.” (Conference Report, April 1928, p. 59.)
Ezra Taft Benson in 1972
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/07/civic-standards-for-the-faithful-saints?lang=eng What is the odds that the 14 fundamentals of the prophet ARE NOT referenced in this manual?
This will be a tell tale sign for me.
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Please, please no. That would be a major disappointment. I’m still gutted the correlation committee let them be parroted (twice!) in 2010 general conference.
Funny thing is, I don’t remember them being read at the time, it’s just the principle of the matter.
Still… We do still have this:
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine I would hope not, since that talk was given by Elder Benson, not by President Benson. Frankly, if the Benson manual focuses on what he said as the President, there won’t be much that would be controversial – certainly not compared to what he said before he became President. If it includes a lot of what he said as an apostle . . . I might have a bloody tongue on more than one Sunday.
Ray/cwald, I was misinformed. The new manual will be Joseph Fielding Smith. Deseret Book has it on their website for pre-order. Old-Timer wrote:I would hope not, since that talk was given by Elder Benson, not by President Benson.
Frankly, if the Benson manual focuses on what he said as the President, there won’t be much that would be controversial – certainly not compared to what he said before he became President. If it includes a lot of what he said as an apostle . . . I might have a bloody tongue on more than one Sunday.
I hope so too. But the manuals up to now have used sources from their pre-prez days.
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