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June 13, 2015 at 8:30 pm #300714
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GuestAdding to Heber’s Santa Analogy – I have a grown daughter who knows the Santa details, yet she loves the Santa side of Christmas. Every year we as a family participate in Santa excitement as if he were really going to come down the chimney. Some years we have loved watching her set out the cookies, then eat said cookies, then finish writing a note to whomever wasn’t there when she ate the cookies, then the lights are turned out and she can’t wait to have everyone have their Santa moment in the morning. It is her tradition and will be so for the rest of her life. June 14, 2015 at 6:11 am #300715Anonymous
Guestnibbler wrote:SilentDawning wrote:Mine eyes have been opened….and perhaps I see as the gods? (just kidding).
I wouldn’t kid about that. Own it.
:thumbup: I actually meant it…but was afraid to admit it. I wonder if we see things as God does now…it seems so much more realistic not to believe everything so literally. It’s so practical, so peace-giving, and so much more fulfilling in life this way.
June 15, 2015 at 5:24 pm #300716Anonymous
GuestI re-read Sis. Wixom’s talk, and you’re right, it is different. I appreciate your insight on the woman she quoted, Ann. I think the first time I heard the talk, I just heard the “do the basics” part and chalked it up to another one of those kinds of talks. Funny how your frame of mind can shed different light on your interpretations. nibbler wrote:
First I’ll ask, do you want to go back?My experience was that when I began to ask myself that very question it may have been an indication that I could no longer go back. I had doubted before the crisis but those doubts were never accompanied with wanting to go back to a previous mental state. When I asked myself that question I knew that something had changed.
The second question I’ll ask, what does getting back to where you were before mean to you? Back to more orthodox belief, back to a place where you feel at peace/happy, etc.?
I guess what I wish is that I was back in a place where everything was pretty clear. At that point in my life, I felt like I had a clear direction on how to raise my kids and find answers to my problems and how to spend my time. I thought I knew what truth was. I thought people like me had “fallen away.” So, I guess that’s what I wish I could get back to– knowing what I’m doing and being pretty sure about it. I’m realizing more and more, though, that the axiom is true: once you see it, you can’t un-see it.
June 15, 2015 at 5:41 pm #300717Anonymous
GuestNonTraditionalMom wrote:Funny how your frame of mind can shed different light on your interpretations.
That is one incredibly powerful statement!Also explains how others interpret it, and how remaining involved at church can be an option, despite various views. The prism does not change the source of the light…just what we see from different points of view.
When you change your frame of mind, you can return to the exact same talks and words and teachings, and see it very differently, even though those words never changed.
June 16, 2015 at 3:48 am #300718Anonymous
GuestHeber13 wrote:
When you change your frame of mind, you can return to the exact same talks and words and teachings, and see it very differently, even though those words never changed.Thank goodness!
You can also still be involved in the gospel of Christ, not necessarily the “church”, regardless of where, when, or what your circumstances may be. I have learned this for myself.
I can never go back to where I was. The idea makes me shudder. Forward, to a better place….
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