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    Dr. Bushman said of church leaders: “Somewhere along the line they decided they were just going to tell the whole story, not to be defensive, not to try to hide anything. And there’s no single fact that’s more unsettling than Joseph Smith’s marriage to other men’s wives.

    Unsettling to men, but I highly doubt it’s at the top of the list for women.

    It’s interesting how we can never really get outside ourselves.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/us/its-official-mormon-founder-had-up-to-40-wives.html?ref=us&_r=0

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    I know one man who is very “unsettled” with polygamy. So much so he had a heated argument with his anthropologist daughter about it. To hear him talk, you’d think he was the one being asked to be the plural spouse.

    In the end, the anthropologist was correct, and he conceded to her. It didn’t change his mind one bit about it happening in his world. “He#@ No.”

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    mom3 wrote:

    I know one man who is very “unsettled” with polygamy. So much so he had a heated argument with his anthropologist daughter about it. To hear him talk, you’d think he was the one being asked to be the plural spouse.

    In the end, the anthropologist was correct, and he conceded to her. It didn’t change his mind one bit about it happening in his world. “He#@ No.”

    I am wondering what the anthropologist point was…I assume that polygamy is fairly common throughout history.

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    Dr. Bushman said of church leaders: “Somewhere along the line they decided they were just going to tell the whole story, not to be defensive, not to try to hide anything. And there’s no single fact that’s more unsettling than Joseph Smith’s marriage to other men’s wives.

    I believe that Bro. Bushman was refering to how this fact punches holes in most people’s understandings of polygamy. Necessary to raise up seed or provide for the widows or to secure exaltation for those unmarried/married to non-members – none of that squares well with marrying other men’s wives.

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    10 points for Roy.

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    I am wondering what the anthropologist point was…I assume that polygamy is fairly common throughout history.

    Thanks for it out. I meant to include it, but my foggy brain skips a few words here and there.

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    Roy wrote:

    I believe that Bro. Bushman was refering to how this fact punches holes in most people’s understandings of polygamy. Necessary to raise up seed or provide for the widows or to secure exaltation for those unmarried/married to non-members – none of that squares well with marrying other men’s wives.

    It’s funny how polyandry finally tips the scales where justifications like “the marriages were never consummated” and “where are Joseph Smith’s children from the polygamous relationships?” do not.

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    Dr. Bushman said of church leaders: “Somewhere along the line they decided they were just going to tell the whole story, not to be defensive, not to try to hide anything. And there’s no single fact that’s more unsettling than Joseph Smith’s marriage to other men’s wives.”

    No more unsettling to whom? To Dr. Bushman. The single fact that is most unsettling is going to be different for everyone.

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    You make a good point, Nibbler. I have said here before that polygamy isn’t all that big an issue for me and that I have other issues that are bigger. It’s about my personal perspective. What’s big to me may not even bother someone else and vice versa. I will say that I have pretty much always been aware of Joseph’s polygamy (and the supposed reasons for it), I was not aware of the polyandry nor was I aware that some of the “women” were actually teenagers – it did remind me of Warren Jeffs and the FLDS (I can see where they got it from now). These things did bother me a bit, yet I still have bigger fish frying. In a nutshell, what’s unsettling to me may not be at all unsettling to the person sitting next to me, and I think we need to accept that kind of diversity.

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    Out of curiosity, I asked one of my friends about what she and her family thought of the essays. They hadn’t heard about them at all, and when I explained what they were about, she was completely unfazed and told me she’d known about many of the polygamy and polyandry facts for years and that they were taught in her classes. She moved around to many different states in the US, though, so she had her own individual church experience. And that made it so this one single fact was not unsettling at all.

    One of the (more minor issues) I’ve had with the church and really just society in general is the blatant generalizations. But that’s another topic.

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    No it’s not for a variety of reasons.

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