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amateurparent wrote:
Years ago, we visited Temple Square and took the kids to see the Christus. Two sister missionaries sucked up hard for a few minutes and then DEMANDED that we give them names of friends that they could submit for follow up visits. They were a little scary in their pressure sales tactics.
I keep the names of a few ultra orthodox, borderline fanatical members in my back pocket for times like those. Here you go sisters, this guy sure could use the gospel.
:angel: Just a story so I can sympathize with the feeling of becoming a missionary’s “project”. I miss two Sunday’s in a row. One because I wasn’t feeling it and the other because I was out of town. Two new Elders stop by my house when I was away and invited me to the 4th of July BBQ (my sister in law was home). I thought that was strange because I was WELL aware of the BBQ being on the activities committee.
Then I get a voice message from them asking when they can meet me. (Notice they don’t ask if but when. F THAT). I realize then they must of been confused about me missing church for two weeks and thought I was inactive. I text them back telling them I’m not interested in meeting up. I get a text asking me if I’m interested in the church and why I’m not interested. I blew a fuse and told them to back off and I’ve been an active member all of my life. Then they apologize.
You think it was over. NOPE. I have a YSA girl go up to me and confront me why I didn’t go see the missionaries. My jaw drop. The missionaries were spreading gossip to people in the ward how I REFUSE to meet with them. I just walk off because I was about to explode.
I texted the missionaries to stop gossiping about me and to BACK OFF. Then I get a text saying that the girl CONFRONTED them about me. Without realizing it they were being COMPLETELY dishonest in why they were talking to me. I realize then I was someone’s project. They were trying to fix me WITHOUT asking me why I missed church for TWO weeks. ARRRGGGHHH.
I’ve had another experience like this 5 years ago when my Elder’s quorum president came to my house unannounced and demanded me to take DISCUSSIONS with the missionaries because I only stayed for sacrament meeting. I LOST IT and kick them out of my house. At the time I left because of social anxiety issues NOT because of the lack of me understanding the church.
Mormons have the tendency to never ask what you need. They already have it figured out and you become their project.
amateurparent wrote:
I’ve been back to SLC a couple time since .. And I have avoided Temple Square. I’m afraid of the missionaries. Too much zeal.
DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THAT. I’m to the point that I’ll never go to temple square again because I feel like I’m just an extension to sister’s referral list.
This is odd. I go to temple square almost once a year on our “Utah summer visit” and I don’t think we have ever been asked for referrals. The only memorable item was that a long time ago someone stole our diaper bag from our stroller. I thought that was quite odd. Quote:Looking Hard wrote: “This is odd. I go to temple square almost once a year on our “Utah summer visit” and I don’t think we have ever been asked for referrals. The only memorable item was that a long time ago someone stole our diaper bag from our stroller. I thought that was quite odd.”
First — what a weird thing to steal. A diaper bag??!!
Second — Maybe it is because we live so far away from the intermountain region? I dunno. The missionaries swoop down like a bad scene from that old Hitchcock movie The Birds. They are everywhere and there is no escape!
amateurparent wrote:The missionaries swoop down like a bad scene from that old Hitchcock movie The Birds. They are everywhere and there is no escape!
It
isan entire mission crammed into two city blocks. 
I’m sure it varies from mission president to mission president but the temple square missionaries have quotas/goals just like every mission. X number of contacts per week, Y number of referrals, etc. … and they’ve got over 100 other missionaries swarming their area to compete with to boot!
Sticking up for the temple square missionaries his morning.
🙂 Quote:Nibbler wrote: “It is an entire mission crammed into two city blocks.
I’m sure it varies from mission president to mission president but the temple square missionaries have quotas/goals just like every mission. X number of contacts per week, Y number of referrals, etc. … and they’ve got over 100 other missionaries swarming their area to compete with to boot!
Sticking up for the temple square missionaries his morning.
🙂 “Agree with all the above. When we visit temple square with our SLC niece, she has young children and strollers. We never are approached. Without the stroller brigade, we are asked about where we are from. As soon as we mention the far off state, the swarm moves in. I know it is about quotas for contacts and referrals. It is also uncomfortable and off putting.
That niece moved out of state. My SLC relatives now equal zero. Next time I go to Temple Square, I might need to steal a stroller AND a diaper bag as a diversion. Just so I look like a local ..
amateurparent wrote:As soon as we mention the far off state, the swarm moves in. I know it is about quotas for contacts and referrals. It is also uncomfortable and off putting.
Sounds like the solution is to tell them you are from somewhere close by or from somewhere further away.
Oh, I’m from Sandy, UT.
or
Oh, I’m visiting from Kolob. You sure do have some short days in these parts.
Either way they might leave you alone.
amateurparent wrote:Next time I go to Temple Square, I might need to steal a stroller AND a diaper bag as a diversion.
LookingHard, I believe we’ve found your thief.
I was hoping Looking Hard would catch that reference! I did have the thought. But my kids are way past diapers. I could use them for the grandkids Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I was amazed how the sister missionaries were when my family flew to SLC from a remote corner of the continent. As soon as the sisters in beehive house discovered we were members, u could see their faces fall. They completely lost interest and without energy, told us to just go through the place and look at it. They might have shared in the excitement we had in being at temple square, seen it as an opportunity to strengthen members etcetera. It was a minor drop in my attitude that the church tends to care more about itself than its members. Once they think they have u, they take u for granted. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
mom3 wrote:
Part of me wanted to shout “To whoever is running this faith crisis show, I didn’t ask for this. I did all the right stuff, I served with sincerity, I paid money and time, and faith. I read scriptures, I attended the temple, did the visiting teaching. And this – this journey of discovery is what I get. That and two young girls who probably don’t even know what their school majors are, are sitting in my front room feeling virtuous for reaching out to the lost old lady. They have no idea what callings I have served in, what lessons I have taught, what leadership experiences I have overseen, or what GA’s I’ve eaten lunch with. (On that note does Elder Dellenbaugh of the 70 count as a GA, and likewise the deceased President James E. Faust.) If I am lost – I know where the building is, I can find my way back. In fact I will be there next Sunday, just like I was 2 weeks ago.”This really spoke to me, mom3. We’ve been on the project list for a year off and on now, and it drives me crazy too, though I couldn’t quite put my finger on it. You were lucky they only stayed for 10 minutes. They always stay for at least an hour. We once literally had them stop by just as we were sitting down to dinner, and sit and chat with us in our living room in full view of our dinner getting colder and colder for an entire hour. AND THEY DIDN’T EVEN SHARE A MESSAGE OR ASK WHAT WAS WRONG! I have finally decided that my husband is right: Gentle honesty is the best policy even if it hurts me or someone else. When they started demanding weekly appointments, I told them that we were exploring other churches at the moment and didn’t have the desire to meet with them anymore. They were very surprised, but thanked us for their honesty and haven’t been back since.
But what I quoted from you above is honestly how I feel about my faith crisis over all. I don’t know why God would take me on this journey. I was so close to him before, and now He feels so far away and confusing. I have broken my parents hearts, my FIL is no longer speaking to us, and I don’t trust anyone anymore with spiritual things. Sorry, just venting too
Hippo wrote – Quote:I don’t know why God would take me on this journey. I was so close to him before, and now He feels so far away and confusing. I have broken my parents hearts, my FIL is no longer speaking to us, and I don’t trust anyone anymore with spiritual things. Sorry, just venting too
No apologies. Vent away.
If you really want to be left alone put a picture of your Temple clothes on FB. The only way somebody would bother you then is if they were following through on their plan to kill you. tyler90mi wrote:If you really want to be left alone put a picture of your Temple clothes on FB. The only way somebody would bother you then is if they were following through on their plan to kill you.
Huh? I think I may be missing something here. Explain?
I think tyler is referencing mom’s original conundrum about being bothered by visits from missionaries and being somewhat of a reactivation project. Tyler, sarcasm does not translate well in type.
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