on the temple

[Anonymous]

There are websites that detail the changes throughout the years, I won’t link them here, but I thought this was an interesting change:

1990 version wrote:

ELOHIM: Adam, here is a woman whom we have formed and whom we give unto you to be a companion and helpmeet for you. What will you call her?

2019 version wrote:

ELOHIM: Adam, here is a woman whom we have formed to be your companion and helpmeet. What will you call her?

2023 version wrote:

ELOHIM: Adam, here is a woman whom we have formed that you may be companions and helpmeets for one another, and you shall cleave unto one another. What will you call her?

There were two rounds of adjustments to bring more equality to the ceremony and ordinances. The first in 2019 and the second in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Hi Nibbler. You certainly did not take any “wind out of my sails.” I didn’t comment on the nobility appearing in my pedigree our of some sense of self-importance. As you say, lines of descent appearing in pedigrees are often suspect anyway. The point I was trying to make is that the farther one goes back in one’s pedigree, the more it records only the privileged classes; the common folk generally lived and lived and died leaving no record of themselves, so genealogies leave them out. Besides, logically everyone has royal blood somewhere in their pedigrees, even if they haven’t discovered the links. No wind, no sails. For every “noble” person in anyone’s genealogy, there are no doubt as many (or more) profligates. I’ve largely lost interest in genealogy work.

[Anonymous]

I used to enjoy family history – the certainty of the records and connecting myself to my ancestors through words (records technically).

In the last 10 years or so, I started hearing stories about how “people who didn’t necessarily want to be connected to this person” – for a variety of legitimate reasons (abuse in a variety of flavors being the main theme). The biological family set and up lineage didn’t capture any of the “found family” set up – and sometimes that “found family” was the game-changer for that individual. I decided for myself that it wasn’t my place to act as a proxy messenger in this life to try to set any of it up.

During part of my faith transition, I was able to do some family history research that got my mother’s ancestry in Sweden organized for a good 75-100 years further back in different parts of southern Sweden (my mom’s records were American-centric, and she hadn’t had the technology to connect the American records we had to Swedish records). It brought a ton of joy to my mother and I liked doing the research and connecting up the genetic dots. They were a ton of farmer/fisherman/day laborers who wound up moving around a lot in a very small area (who then became farmers, mechanics, and day laborers in Illinois). A dad saved up and saved up to send his daughter, her husband, and their 6 children to America. I’d like to ask him “why” – did he do it to make his wife or his daughter happy? Did he do it as a “good rubbish” – an expensive investment for personal piece of mind? Was this family the “best bet” to improve the legacy he was leaving for future generations? Did he have any regrets about it?

[Anonymous]

nibbler wrote:

There were two rounds of adjustments to bring more equality to the ceremony and ordinances. The first in 2019 and the second in 2023.

I love the efforts to become more equal. I love the part in the sealing where the husband covenants to “receive” the wife. To me, to receive someone means accepting them and covering them. Like we are instructed to “receive” the Holy Ghost, it is an active striving.

For me and my wife, we both give of ourselves and receive the other.

[Anonymous]

I like the current ordinance versions much more than past versions, especially the changes to the initiatory and the endowment.

I like the current, explicit statement that the endowment is symbolic – and the way I view the symbolism.

I love the idea that nobody can fail the endowment if they are trying, no matter how many mistakes they make.

I like that Adam and Eve now are real equals throughout the endowment.

I have had some issues with some things over the years, and I still would tweak a few things if it was my call, but there are no big, glaring issues anymore for me – and I really like the fact that a lot of significant issues / concerns have been addressed in very obvious ways.

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