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May 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm #205987
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Guesthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_memorandum How did this one play out? Just your average 1980s US witch hunt?
May 30, 2011 at 3:14 pm #244296Anonymous
GuestNo, just your average 1980’s-1990’s repressed memory creation that occurred throughout the country, probably. I think the conclusions detailed in the article linked probably are accurate, as I remember all too well the time period and techniques described. The interview / interrogation methods of some therapists really were frightening. I remember vividly hearing first-hand about some of the techniques and being able to construct a “reasonable” scenario by which I could have been accused of things I never did, if ideas and suggestions under hypnosis had been used with my children. I won’t go into details here, but it is absurdly easy to create false repressed memories for someone who is skilled in the techniques – and the scariest part is that many of the people conducting the investigations / interviews really believed in what they were doing and didn’t realize they were creating false memories.
May 30, 2011 at 4:12 pm #244297Anonymous
GuestThis is another one of these unverifiable cases in history in my view. Critical thinking literature says that when you have two equally credible sources indicating conflicting conclusions, you have to dismiss both of them. In this case, they had scores of people telling the same story as indicated by Pace, but then, you have others finding no evidence whatsoever, as well as history casting doubt on the techniques used to elicit the responses. Personally, I don’t think it happened. It’s hard enough to get a YW President to break the sabbath or a TBM Mormon to play a music gig in a bar; I can’t see leaders in the Church unanimously participating in such rituals.
June 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm #244298Anonymous
GuestQuote:Remember, false accusation is also a sin. – Elder Scott
I make no accusations on the Pace Memo
😳 June 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm #244299Anonymous
GuestSounds like quite a few other things in the 1980s (mostly, but not exclusively in the USA)… the back-masking heavy metal scandal, supposed alien abduction, run of the mill satanic abuse scandal… Been reading a few comments around the web about the use of pentagrams in Mormonism. Very interesting. On the outside of our temple there’s a pentagram, but taken in conjunction with the moon and the sun, it obviously represents the telestial kingdom. Pentagrams also appear to have been used in early Christianity.
However I was a bit creeped out recently, when a guy in our stake (who I don’t particularly like), was sporting a pentagram ring… To think I’m getting my endowment in the near future…
June 2, 2011 at 11:47 pm #244300Anonymous
GuestSamBee wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_memorandum How did this one play out? Just your average 1980s US witch hunt?
One of the most interesting things that happened as a result of the leaking of this memo to the Tanners is that it exposed for the first time the Committee on Strengthening Church Members which exists for the apparent purpose of creating files on members considered potentially dangerous.
You may find it hard to believe, but this committee was organized by President Ezra Taft Benson . . .
All the Best!
–Consiglieri
June 3, 2011 at 12:14 am #244301Anonymous
Guestconsiglieri wrote:You may find it hard to believe, but this committee was organized by President Ezra Taft Benson . . . All the Best!
–Consiglieri
Phew! My sides hurt from laughing!
😆 June 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm #244302Anonymous
GuestAnti-Communists seem to have been incredibly Stalinist… show trials… committees for strength and investigation… sounds like the Kremlin c. 1934. -
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