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    I think I would’ve been staring at my phone while quietly muttering “A&$hole”

    A few days later and I’d have finally come up with an erudite response.

    Quick on my feet? Not so much.

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    I also had this thought when I posted the other thread about the dangers of clinging to the Iron Rod.

    wayfarer wrote:

    I totally agree with the idea that we need to speak up, and use “orthodox terms” to express the Way as we see it.

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    I think the Book of Mormon helps us understand how to share the Word as we understand it. I now see the narrative of the Book differently, understanding the humanity of the heroes, and the goodness of the villians. Are we Laman and Lemuel and the active church members Nephi and Sam?

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    We are going to be attacked in our meetings — no question about it. Our faith journeys are in transformation: we are coming to a new rebirth of our understanding of God and the gospel. We are not “losing faith”, but rather, our faith is being refined by the fire of doubt and adversity. This is inherently threatening to our brethren and sisters who find great happiness in what they perceive as certainties of the Church and the comfort of following the leaders without question. Truth be known, our faith journeys are as difficult as Lehi’s family was in leaving Jerusalem.


    There may be a generally accepted and correlated interpretation that is regurgitated at church, but there is lots of room for interpretations and applications as we

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    “liken all scriptures unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning” (1 Ne 19:23)

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    “we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.” 2 Ne 25:26.

    The article in the other thread about the dangers of clinging to the rod is a faithful perspective, even if revisiting Lehi’s dream and applying it differently.

    I see that done a church all the time.

    It just depends on how far the new application of all scripture pushes the line for others’ interpretations, and how kind it is on their orthodox view.

    It requires tact, should have the right timing, and should only be in the right doses that don’t hurt others. Or…I keep thoughts to myself. Filters are good.

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    Meh Mormon wrote:

    I all honesty DJ, I would have started to check Facebook or something else on my phone and tuned out. That being said, it would probably be a miracle in and of itself if I actually went. Sorry you had to deal with that.

    +100 for this one. I used to feel so guilty for not listening, but now I realize that choosing to not listen (or not attend) makes my experience at Church infinitely more enjoyable. I’ve enjoyed Church more as a nonbeliever than I ever did as a believer.

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    marty wrote:

    Meh Mormon wrote:

    I all honesty DJ, I would have started to check Facebook or something else on my phone and tuned out. That being said, it would probably be a miracle in and of itself if I actually went. Sorry you had to deal with that.

    +100 for this one. I used to feel so guilty for not listening, but now I realize that choosing to not listen (or not attend) makes my experience at Church infinitely more enjoyable. I’ve enjoyed Church more as a nonbeliever than I ever did as a believer.

    My choice of seating has changed for this very reason. I am always looking to where I can have some screen privacy. I have my very old iPad that I sometimes pull the lesson up on while looking at my phone (WiFi turned off so LDSAccess won’t block or track anything – plus it is too slow anyway). So are electronics a blessing sent from God to allow us to tolerate being in certain classes? :shifty:

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