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    While we can debate all day long if this new “policy” change was inspired or not, I don’t think there is any debate that the church was NOT prepared for the fallout of this decision. The PR department of the church was probably not consulted before the change, and is now playing catch up.

    And the Mormon judge that took the baby away from the lesbian couple is just making it worse. This morning on the “Today Show”, they ran a short piece, which can be seen here, about the judges decision, and then tied it to the LDS church’s change to not allow children of gay parents to participate in church ordnances.

    IMHO, the fall out from this will affect missionary efforts for years to come.

    #306092
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    I agree that the PR fiasco is greater than anticipated. I’m not sure if they just underestimated and thought everyone would just believe “the prophet had spoken so the discussion is over” or if they calculated their losses in advance. I also agree that missionary work here (US) will suffer from this – perhaps similarly to the Blacks and the priesthood era but exacerbated because the church is (relatively) much larger now as is the missionary force.

    It’s hard to tell if the baby thing is just coincidence or is related. This whole gay marriage thing is newer in Utah than it is in my liberal Northeast state. On the other hand, singles (gay or straight) and gay couples have been allowed to foster and adopt children here for decades. Even Utah’s DCFS (for which my daughter used to work and is predominantly LDS) is opposed to this decision.

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    DarkJedi wrote:

    Even Utah’s DCFS (for which my daughter used to work and is predominantly LDS) is opposed to this decision.


    Just saw the Dir. of Utah DCFS on CNN. The judge has rescinded the original decision. New hearing on Dec. 4th.

    #306094
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    Elder Christofferson made it kind of sound like it was not going to be something brand new, it was an extension of what they were already doing with polygamous families or Muslim situations (which I had no idea anything about, to be honest), so perhaps they were pacified a bit by that…but I would be surprised if the PR department wasn’t involved in every way and prepared for it. I think they were.

    Just sometimes they deal with so much stuff…they probably think it is just another day at the office.

    Sheldon, I don’t think you give enough credit to the Brethren for anticipating stuff, and calculating risks. I think they consider it all, just have to make a decision they know will not be unpopular, but feel is necessary anyway to building the Kingdom the way they see it.

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    My husband said he felt like all missionary efforts he did during his residency was erased. Now all those friends are liking the posts on Facebook about the mass resignation. I personally am embarrassed to be called a Mormon right now and don’t want to be branded as one. I hope that they didn’t anticipate this, because if they did, thanks for making our lives harder while drawing some unnecessary line in the sand. I think we all knew how the church felt about homosexuality, and now I am trying to protect loved ones who are married to same gender partners. It feels like bullying to me. Sorry if I come off angry, I want to be the level headed person, but I find it hard lately

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    slowlylosingit wrote:

    I personally am embarrassed to be called a Mormon right now and don’t want to be branded as one.

    I hear you and I feel the same way. I don’t want to resign, but I can certainly empathize with others who do so and I’m embarrassed of my church right now.

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