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January 4, 2023 at 4:55 pm #343575
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GuestOut of curiosity, how far back does your PH lineage go in the family. How long is that tradition you’re trying to maintain, or is it a new tradition? We have a PH advancement looming as well but in our case it’s less about who gets to perform the ordinance and more about the PH advancement being… forced is the wrong word but all of the desire for the advancement is coming from the church leader side of the equation. It seems like a person should at least express some desire to advance in the PH (at least the age appropriate advancements) and it shouldn’t all be coming from others that want to see someone to advance in the PH.
I find myself in the awkward position of running interference between leaders and a kid that’s not interested but also not yet strong enough to hold back the tide.
January 9, 2023 at 2:11 am #343576Anonymous
GuestThat’s great, Roy. I’m glad you were able to ordain your son. I agree with you. As you mentioned, leadership roulette has a lot to do with that. January 9, 2023 at 6:42 pm #343577Anonymous
Guestnibbler wrote:
Out of curiosity, how far back does your PH lineage go in the family. How long is that tradition you’re trying to maintain, or is it a new tradition?We have a PH advancement looming as well but in our case it’s less about who gets to perform the ordinance and more about the PH advancement being… forced is the wrong word but all of the desire for the advancement is coming from the church leader side of the equation. It seems like a person should at least express some desire to advance in the PH (at least the age appropriate advancements) and it shouldn’t all be coming from others that want to see someone to advance in the PH.
I find myself in the awkward position of running interference between leaders and a kid that’s not interested but also not yet strong enough to hold back the tide.
My PH Lineage only goes back to my dad in the family. My grandfather was not a member his entire life. So yes, it is a fairly new tradition with nobody imposing it but me.
I am fine if DS chooses not to continue it. I suppose when the time comes I will need to talk to my son and let him know that he can start new traditions within his family.
I do believe that if a young man does not advance at the appropriate time then this would mark that person as different. Imagine that one particular boy can pass the sacrament but not bless it despite being the same age as the other boys that bless it. I think this is slightly worse now that all the ordinations happen at the beginning of the year. Everyone moves up at the same time so it is obvious if anyone doesn’t advance for any reason.
Considering that my own DS is on the autism spectrum, we work hard to have him be included with the other boys his age. I also feel that it is good for him to have a role in serving the faith community. This can help him have a sense of belonging. Now that DS is a priest, I will work with him on saying the prayer and what to expect on that part.
January 16, 2023 at 6:07 pm #343578Anonymous
GuestMy son blessed the sacrament for the first time yesterday. It went well. As the parent of a child on the autism spectrum, I appreciate that efforts are made to include my child. I believe that it is good and character building for him to have a responsibility within his faith community.
January 17, 2023 at 1:36 pm #343579Anonymous
GuestI’m glad it went well. Three down, one to go.
January 17, 2023 at 9:50 pm #343580Anonymous
GuestI’m also glad that the experiences were meaningful and relationship-building for your family. This has been something that you have been attentive to for a very long time – I rejoice that it is paying off for you:)
January 25, 2023 at 2:33 am #343581Anonymous
GuestThanks for the update, Roy. I am happy for all involved.
January 25, 2023 at 2:56 am #343582Anonymous
GuestI think this was good strategy. It’s much better to have them come to you and ask you to do it, either by implication or overtly, and then just do it. No muss, no fuss, no opening up the discussion for a “no” or “time to motivate Roy” moment. Suprised the Bishop verified that you would sit in on your daughter’s interview. What if your daughter had said “no”, she didn’t want you there, then what? Awkward position for the bishop, and you.
Nonetheless, glad you have the ordination on the books.
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