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mackay11 wrote:Old-Timer wrote:Quote:
I’m not saying the COB staged the campaign.
:wtf: 🙄 They didn’t.
🙂 I didn’t realise there’s a ‘wtf’ emoticon. I’m guessing that stands for a good Utah style ‘what the fetch?!’
I thought it was “what the flip?!”
Martha wrote:
Interesting tid-bit. When I was a freshman at BYU, I was called to be the assistant to the assistant ward clerk and participated in the processing and recording of weekly tithing. I’ve never heard of such a thing before or since, but I, a woman, actually touched tithing money.But a year or so ago I was released as Sunday school secretary because It was decided that the Sunday school presidency should be all male. I don’t know if the decision was a local one or church wide, but apparently the priesthood is required to pass out roles and ring the bell.
:crazy: Yeah, it’s like the gymnastics the local Bishopric tells the deacons to do if there is a gap in the pew while passing the sacrament, to avoid at all costs having a girl or woman walking with the tray from one end of the gap to the other.
Ridiculous.
Quote:Yeah, it’s like the gymnastics the local Bishopric tells the deacons to do if there is a gap in the pew while passing the sacrament, to avoid at all costs having a girl or woman walking with the tray from one end of the gap to the other.
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🙄 :thumbdown: 😈 That is the stuff that drives me crazy, since it is so narrow-minded, non-sensical and in opposition to what happens almost everywhere else in the Church. There is NO difference between my daughter handing the tray to me sitting next to her and my daughter walking a few steps to hand it to someone else.
Hi Martha, pedant point but that was not the first time a woman spoke in conference. I found out recently that Lucy Mack Smith spoke in priesthood in GC many moons ago. Not a lot of people know that! Reflexzero wrote:Martha wrote:
Interesting tid-bit. When I was a freshman at BYU, I was called to be the assistant to the assistant ward clerk and participated in the processing and recording of weekly tithing. I’ve never heard of such a thing before or since, but I, a woman, actually touched tithing money.But a year or so ago I was released as Sunday school secretary because It was decided that the Sunday school presidency should be all male. I don’t know if the decision was a local one or church wide, but apparently the priesthood is required to pass out roles and ring the bell.
:crazy: Yeah, it’s like the gymnastics the local Bishopric tells the deacons to do if there is a gap in the pew while passing the sacrament, to avoid at all costs having a girl or woman walking with the tray from one end of the gap to the other.
Ridiculous.
Wow. Am I “speaking ill of…” if I say that’s belligerently pigheaded?
There’s no accounting for Pharasaical stupidity. This whole thing strikes me as disingenuous. What are the possibilities? –
* It was on the cards, but could have been quietly dropped without the campaign (they never publicized it to begin with) Not unlikely.
* The campaign made an issue of it. Probable.
* It was made with no influence from Mormon feminists whatsoever, and came by inspiration, no sir. Cough cough…
Talk about undoing something good.
or It was on the cards because the leadership finally recognized it as an important issue. The campaign was coincidental timing OR it was inspired to bring attention to what was going to happen and it make us talk openly about what otherwise would not have made the impact it did on quite a few people.
I can’t say for sure, but I do believe it was scheduled prior to the campaign, from what I know about the scheduling of General Conference talks and prayers.
The bigger progress, imo, was the restructuring of mission leadership to include sister missionaries and create more of a Co-MP arrangement with the couple who lead the mission. They still will be called the Mission President and his wife, but they now are much more co-leaders than they were previously.
Please explain this passing the sacrament issue? Are you really implying that women can’t stand up and walk with a sacrament tray? observant, It was one person at the local level who believed that. It’s an extremist position, not what any reasonable person would believe – and certainly not what anyone here (or, frankly, any leader I’ve ever had) would believe. Okay, whew, thanks. That’s what I was hoping it was. 
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