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Scriptures teach us in part, that God is the same, yesterday, today and forever. Well, I believe that is true, but what does that mean? Does that mean policy and cultural practice cant change? Didn’t Jesus fulfill the law of Moses, and give us a new law to live by? In regards to the very order of the priesthood being from Father to Son, patriarchal order as such is called, isn’t that a bit mute? I wonder if what is the same with God isn’t that these practices can’t change, for they have, but if its just that he loves us, and that he will help us achieve everything we want so long as we strive to live those commandments he has set forth, 10 commandments yes, but also that highest law, To Love God and Love our Fellow men and women as we love ourselves.
I was wondering about Patriarchy and God, and change. I wonder if: What if it really isn’t God’s responsibility to change it but ours? What if God can’t change it? Then what do we do about it?
These are just questions to mull over, comment if you want, or just think about it. Been wondering for some time why God doesn’t change things that are wrong, or why he allows it to take so long, if they are against the order of Heaven, but then I realize, maybe this patriarchal order of the priesthood (though not necessarily in my view was God mentioning the family, no I think he mentioned only and solely the Church), maybe though maybe this order really is just what men wanted, and maybe just maybe once we start finding what women truly want (not just what they have grown up taught that they want, but what they truly have thought abut and truly want), We can then create a new path.
So maybe we have to change it, and it can’t just be thought to be only through revelation. I don’t know any more where I was getting at. I’m in one of those philosophical moods today.
Quote:Does that mean policy and cultural practice cant change?
If so, we’re really screwed, since policy and practice have changed innumerable times throughout history, in our canonized scriptures and in our own modern history. So, I think the answer is a clear, “No, it doesn’t mean that.”
Quote:What if it really isn’t God’s responsibility to change it but ours?
Maybe part of learning how to be like God is learning to change things that are in our power to change.
Then I guess I will just pray for change where I can’t change it, and change it where I can with my fiance once we are husband and wife. I really do think that. God gave us agency, I think part of that is to change what we can. It makes sense. I can’t really disagree with it. Nope. This one concretely makes sense to me.
I like examples in the scriptures that teach us about how God interacts with us. The story of the Brother of Jared is interesting to me, because God didn’t provide the Jaredites, Nephi, or Noah all the same exact blueprint for the one and only God approved ship. God instructs them to build ships for a journey, but doesn’t seem to care much about the details…as long as it gets the job done. Subsequently, the need to light the Jaredite vessels presents more instruction. The Brother of Jared has to figure out a way to light it, and suggests to the Lord to touch the stones…its the Brother of Jared’s idea…not an unchanging rule from the Lord on a celestial policy for lighting vessels. And the Lord accepts the idea and complies with lighting the rocks.
I think there are many things in church that are like this. I am not sure the Lord cares about the details…but only that the ideas are helping to contribute to the purposes. The Lord also seems to allow some things that aren’t right to occur in the Church until someone finds the need to change it…which provides the opportunity for all of us to always be engaged to want to find and improve things and present the ideas to Him, as did the Brother of Jared, for acceptance. I like that the church has continuous revelation, and continuous improvement.
I like that story, forgot about it (haven’t been really studying the scriptures, just reading one verse a night). I’m trying though hard to also remember a woman who did such a thing, oh yeah. Zeloephads daughters (forgive me on the spelling if I got that wrong), they went to Moses, to inquire of him, they didn’t wait for God to decide to change it for them. They presented their problem to Moses, and then Moses, becoming aware of it, asked of God and thus they where allowed to inherit their father’s property. I think those few stories are there to tell us, we can change things, it isn’t just all “What God wants” and things can’t change. Yes, I do agree with the whole “Loving” the church for being a church of revelation. I just don’t know if we’ve received a strong revelation since the lifting of the priesthood ban. Doesn’t hurt praying for it.
This one can be locked too. Just so tired right now.
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