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Roy wrote:
My first reaction was that I don’t hope to reform the church – i just try to navigate it the best I can.
Primary is my pet peeve. I would love to come up with some kind of mission statement for primary. Is it to help each child feel the love of God or to provide an atmosphere so that the kids would CHOOSE to be there? Then everything we do would need to contribute to the mission.
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Here, here!!
:clap: Oh, goodness. Our primary has THE most amazing chorister. She has the kids moving and singing and it is downright F.U.N. If I were a kid in primary, I would totally try to talk my friends into coming to church with me.
BUT…but then our primary president gets up (after preparing her sharing time during the songs) and I swear it’s like she personally deflates the room. It’s dry…it’s boring…it’s painful.
Why, oh, why can’t primary make learning fun…or at least engaging?
🙄 Roadrunner wrote:
* Acknowledge publicly the doctrines that don’t have to be doctrines and which just turn people away. WoW, I’m pretty sure the modern concepts for all three of these differs significantly than what Joseph and Brigham practiced.You know…when the TR question asks, “Do you obey the WOW?” I have to wonder how obese members make it through!
I mean, dangit…the WOW is MORE than coffee and tobacco!
What about eating meat sparingly?
What about eating grains a plenty?
Yeah – that is something that should be reconsidered.
hawkgrrrl wrote:Maybe the church will end up just for men.
lol.I wonder if the land of Amazon (where Wonder Woman lived) would be ideal for feminists.
But…I agree with much of what you said.
People hate to be told “no”…especially when that decision is based on anatomy.
I wonder…could a transgender person be admitted to the priesthood session?
I know that they can’t be ordained to the priesthood, but … maybe to the session?
Old-Timer wrote:It’s also interesting to point out that many women (and men) would find mom3’s husband’s letter condescending and patronizing, even though I don’t read it that way at all. I guarantee it would have caused a firestorm online, just like the PR statement did.
I would have gone for the free food and a night away from the kids.
😆 DarkJedi wrote:I agree with you JG that the priesthood is generally misunderstood. As far as I can tell there is no actual power, there is an authorization to perform ordinances. The power is God’s and God may (and I think does) answer the prayer of a woman just as well as the blessing of a high priest.
I would love to talk more about that. I’ve not considered it as being misunderstood before. I grew up thinking that a PB would be the “end all”…you get one of those and you are set.
Which, as many of us have seen, it NOT the case most of the time.
How many people were NOT cured of cancer even after a PB said that they would be?
I’ve actually never seen a PB heal anyone of anything…ever. So…I’ve always wondered…what is the purpose of a PB? I mean, what can a PB do for me that my own personal prayers can’t do?
No, no – don’t answer that here – that is probably something already discussed somewhere in this board, so I’ll look for it, but still…it’s a question that I had even as a little girl.
Where did we get the idea of priesthood blessings, anyway?
If the PP is just for ordinances (which actually feels right), then how did we get so sidetracked?
Quote:The issue isn’t the priesthood per se. It is that “priesthood” is code in our church for being respected, being listened to, having authority, being autonomous, etc. Having only men make decisions for everyone hurts women. Sometimes in very deep ways.
Exactly.
QA: I am shocked that your ward doesn’t end with female speakers. My wards have no proscription against this. I have been the last speaker many times, sometimes all the speakers have been women, and couples almost never speak the same day so that singles don’t feel like the odd ones.
mackay11 wrote:I am still outraged by black men being denied the priesthood. It sickens me to the stomach to think we had a racist policy.
So am I. I don’t like the way the church tries to butter it over. David O. McKay made efforts to get rid of it. He succeeded in doing so for non-Afro-Caribbean blacks (a point rarely mentioned), but was blocked in the African case.
mackay11 wrote:
I don’t feel the same way about women being denied it. Don’t get me wrong. I would welcome them getting it and, if asked, I see no reason why women shouldn’t have it. But, if I’m honest, I simply don’t see it in the same way. I wish I did and I wonder why I don’t. Why am I, apparently, still passively sexist but hate racism?It saddens me to think that I am still part of the problem and a barrier when considering reform.
Women already have the priesthood.
* Gift of the Holy Ghost, and Confirmation, give women the Aaronic priesthood IMHO.
* The endowment (for all its faults) is a kind of ordination into the Melchizedek priesthood. The word “priestess” is used in it.
* There is also decent evidence for suggesting that JS was turning Relief Society into a priesthood organization.
QuestionAbound wrote:Where did we get the idea of priesthood blessings, anyway?
Matthew 10:1Acts 3:6
Can men attend the General Women’s Meeting? Unknown wrote:Can men attend the General Women’s Meeting?
Ask Elder Eyring.
I listened in over the internet. Very different than a Priesthood Session, much shorter and it had a nice feelgood video.
Unknown wrote:Can men attend the General Women’s Meeting?
Man, I hope not. I already have more meetings than I want.
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