Restarting World Economy

[Anonymous]

Americans are in shock and have not fully grasped our situation. Restarting our utterly complex and tightly wound economy may seem insurmountable when the time comes. I wish I had more confidence in our civil and religious leaders. Many of the ‘olds’, including me may not see it.

For years it has been clear to me that certain people in the world have retained the majority of the world’s wealth. Hopefully, in the restart, they will use some of it or we will see chaos. Locally, in my own area, I read about companies that I had always assumed would be around, perhaps disappearing? I just read about Powell’s Books, and Mcmenamins perhaps being gone forever when the smoke begins to clear.

My Church, Yes, the Mormon one has shut its doors, and many who depend upon the Sacrament Service to help them get through the week now must go it on their own. I am likely the most snotty, disobedient Mormon, yet, in the core of my own soul, I am Mormon.

There have been lots of complaints about the 100 million Dollars that the Church has hidden away. Is this the time that was saved for, or are there yet more dire things to happen yet?

[Anonymous]

Khadijah wrote:

Americans are in shock and have not fully grasped our situation. Restarting our utterly complex and tightly wound economy may seem insurmountable when the time comes. I wish I had more confidence in our civil and religious leaders. Many of the ‘olds’, including me may not see it.

For years it has been clear to me that certain people in the world have retained the majority of the world’s wealth. Hopefully, in the restart, they will use some of it or we will see chaos. Locally, in my own area, I read about companies that I had always assumed would be around, perhaps disappearing? I just read about Powell’s Books, and Mcmenamins perhaps being gone forever when the smoke begins to clear.

My Church, Yes, the Mormon one has shut its doors, and many who depend upon the Sacrament Service to help them get through the week now must go it on their own. I am likely the most snotty, disobedient Mormon, yet, in the core of my own soul, I am Mormon.

There have been lots of complaints about the 100 million Dollars that the Church has hidden away. Is this the time that was saved for, or are there yet more dire things to happen yet?

There’s a lot to unpack, but I’ll express my reaction to all of this with my disgust that as both members and non members, we have immaturely reacted to the urgency to stock up, hording too much essentials and leaving others dry to struggle. This is unacceptable and anyone who has the status of being a member of any Christian church should be ashamed of themselves for buying hundreds of supplies and hiding them in their basement “just in case”.

With that emotional perspective said, I am still not sure how anyone can justify the church’s 100billion considering how many volunteers they squeeze out of us for cleaning, temple work and callings. Not to mention expecting us to pay for missions that often result in less than adequate housing and transportation. Meanwhile we see these million dollar temples being built that limit even active and worthy members in sessions. I’m still not happy about their PR move with the Rome temple. Sending all the quorum members over “because the Lord told me he wanted a nice photo” is… not convincing. I’m just not happy with how the money is being used. They teach that tithing is required by the Lord to be saved, but this tithing isn’t transparent by the church anymore, and they’ve adjusted the definition of tithing multiple times. Since I have put a lot of money into the church believing I’d be saved, I feel I have the right to be upset by what they have and haven’t done with it.

Anyway, I think we need to realize the church is a business. They run like one. They have a president who makes the final decisions, gives the company a good name and look. They have a board of directors who go around making choices. They recruit believers to spend their early lives teaching a history they limit the information of. They depend on fear and other nasty tactics to scare the young and other believers into not looking into deeper history or questioning their faith. And they make it very difficult to leave if you join. Families reject their children, parents rebuke their not-interested-in-a-mission teenagers, and young adults are shamed for not getting married or having children.

The church has a lot of power to influence. We see people defend the church for the most bizarre reasons. An earthquake hit SLC yesterday and everyone is convinced the Lord is coming, despite evidence of earthquakes daily. Moroni looses his trumpet and everyone thinks its a sign. Nelson wanted to focus on Joseph Smith this April and now the virus is convincing everyone that Nelson knew more (if he did, he failed to protect us). Anyway, I think there’s a lot of progress that needs to be made. Less ignorance. More kindness. We are all in this world together, let’s stop being selfish.

[Anonymous]

I foresee a recession. It will pass. We are all in this together.

[Anonymous]

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With that emotional perspective said, I am still not sure how anyone can justify the church’s 100billion considering how many volunteers they squeeze out of us for cleaning, temple work and callings. Not to mention expecting us to pay for missions that often result in less than adequate housing and transportation. Meanwhile we see these million dollar temples being built that limit even active and worthy members in sessions. I’m still not happy about their PR move with the Rome temple. Sending all the quorum members over “because the Lord told me he wanted a nice photo” is… not convincing. I’m just not happy with how the money is being used. They teach that tithing is required by the Lord to be saved, but this tithing isn’t transparent by the church anymore, and they’ve adjusted the definition of tithing multiple times. Since I have put a lot of money into the church believing I’d be saved, I feel I have the right to be upset by what they have and haven’t done with it.

While I think our leaders are generally full of good motives, you can’t deny that their astounding wealth makes you think twice about leaving yourself stranded financially so the church can add to its wealth.

I did this. I stopped tithing some time ago. My wife still does it. The money went to paying off debt and building savings for retirement. Not much for luxury items, and if they did, they were for musical equipment or things that create wholesome use of leisure time, and exercising for my health. All things that improve one’s enjoyment of life in wholesome ways that require discipline.

Now that the virus has hit us, I am at peace with my ability to ride out this storm. No debt, savings to help us through any loss of employment, and lots to do at home with spare time on our side since we can’t go out and we all telecommute now. It is SO much less stressful to know that your needs are taken care of, rather than to give it all away to a church that, in my experience (which I know might be unusual), has never been there for me when I have needed them in the past. Not financially, but in other ways.

At the same time, I can’t deny the good the church does, and how it blessed members of my family with its principles. However, when you get the business side juxtaposed with the personal financial side, I come up short a lot in terms of my commitment.

[Anonymous]

I’m really worried at this point that next year I’ll be graduating college in the middle of a recession

[Anonymous]

The intention has to be to restart and reset the global economy in the words of Schwab the guy who runs the shady World Economic Forum (aka Davos), one of many hidden hands in international politics. They clearly wish to rid the world of cash and to redesign the economy so it benefits the elite even more. This includes the use of Smart devices which are basically surveillance and data harvesting tools to spy on the public.

If the WEC was remotely democratic, it wouldn’t operate in such a low key manner. The annual Davos Conferences would be fully open to public scrutiny, but they aren’t, and instead the invited politicians and economists take on board their policies as part of a top down program with no input from the public.

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