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    I’m liking the focus on the Savior and the personal connection. I agree that we often give lip service to the atonement without really thinking about what it was/is. Like Ray, I have a hard time with Nelson’s talks usually but so far so good.

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    I do not like the example of Mexican members fighting same-sex marriage as being especially valiant.

    I also don’t like the story of the Laurel who gave up a great opportunity for a regular church meeting. Church meetings, in and of themselves, are not the most important things in life.

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    Old Timer wrote:


    I LOVE that he kind of dissed one of the phrases I loathe: “applying the Atonement”


    I agree.

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    Old Timer wrote:


    I do not like the example of Mexican members fighting same-sex marriage as being especially valiant.

    Nor the implication that attending a competition instead of church one week is necessarily not being true to our faith in Christ.

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    Old Timer wrote:


    I do not like the example of Mexican members fighting same-sex marriage as being especially valiant.

    I also agree, nor did I like the story of the Laurel. She wasn’t going to hell for missing a once in a lifetime opportunity (either that or all of our LDS professional athletes will be there as well).

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    Yep, ydeve. I added that to my comment before reading yours. Oh, well. I get that view, even if I don’t share it.

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    In many ways, going through a faith crisis is a great example of stretching beyond anything you have known. I know he didn’t mean it to be focused that way, but it is true, nonetheless.

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    I also agree, nor did I like the story of the Laurel. She wasn’t going to hell for missing a once in a lifetime opportunity (either that or all of our LDS professional athletes will be there as well

    Amen. Just imagine if we Nicole Picus Pace or Rulon Garner had skipped a competition. Every Olympic year the church makes a big deal about LDS Athletes, how they are shining the light of the gospel, etc. Let’s hope this portion doesn’t get too much regurgitation.

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    mom3 wrote:


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    I also agree, nor did I like the story of the Laurel. She wasn’t going to hell for missing a once in a lifetime opportunity (either that or all of our LDS professional athletes will be there as well

    Amen. Just imagine if we Nicole Picus Pace or Rulon Garner had skipped a competition. Every Olympic year the church makes a big deal about LDS Athletes, how they are shining the light of the gospel, etc. Let’s hope this portion doesn’t get too much regurgitation.

    I’m expecting a meme with the line about church being more important.

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    I’m expecting a meme with the line about church being more important.

    Ironically GA’s and Church leaders fly on Sunday all the time. Which means a whole battalion of people have to work to keep the Friendly Skies Safe. Soooo?????

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    Old Timer wrote:


    Probably, Ann – but I am not going to focus on that aspect when the message itself was so powerful and needed in the Church.

    This was a direct rebuke of the culture that bothers us so much and the judgmentalism that has hurt so many. I need to respect and honor that.

    Compare it to Elder Soarres’ talk. That one is a true example of simplistic generalities.


    I see what you’re saying. I guess the open question re. the pace of change is whether the church can hit the sweet spot.

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