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http://www.ldsliving.com/story/63283-sister-missionaries-get-a-new-wardrobe Anyone want to guess how long it will be before elders get to wear khakis and polo shirts?
Orson wrote:http://www.ldsliving.com/story/63283-sister-missionaries-get-a-new-wardrobe Anyone want to guess how long it will be before elders get to wear khakis and polo shirts?
It’s about time. People are just naturally leery of “lawyers” and “politicians.” The whole white shirt, tie and suit has got to go from the culture.
Of course we still have a ways to go if the church actually believes this statement, Quote:“The Church provides dress and grooming standards for Elders and Sisters alike,
which are current with acceptable stylesyet maintain an appearance of dignity, professionalism and modesty,” said Scott Trotter, spokesperson for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. How many professions wear only white shirts and ties? I’m not sure even lawyers and politicians wear a white shirt everyday?
cwald wrote:How many professions wear only white shirts and ties? I’m not sure even lawyers and politicians wear a white shirt everyday?
I agree, the first logical step is to allow colored shirts.
Quote:… lots of people who’ve written the [sisters] off thinking, ‘here are two people who want me to join their drab-looking religion,’ will instead think, ‘here are two cute people who want to share some bright message with me’
:wtf: FWIW, I never noticed them being drab, necessarily.
doug wrote:Quote:… lots of people who’ve written the [sisters] off thinking, ‘here are two people who want me to join their drab-looking religion,’ will instead think, ‘here are two cute people who want to share some bright message with me’
:wtf: FWIW, I never noticed them being drab, necessarily.
I think the sister missionaries dress code were MUCH LESS drab than the elders.
I think the guys should get a few more options. If they are trying to catch up with the times and look more approachable women should be allowed to choose pants. I don’t think there is anything unprofessional about pants. All this crazy formal dress is about vanity. They don’t seem to listen to what they teach. Now this is a very interesting topic to me! When I served a mission in Austria in 1969-71 it was a two year mission for sisters and two and a half for the elders. I wore bright colors all the time and a little above the knee but got reprimanded once for it. Mini-skirts were very big then. The thing that really bothered me was that we had to wear skirts and dresses and could not wear pants suits at times. We would ride our bikes down cobblestone strees between trolley cars. Sometimes it was down a very steep hill with ditch diggers tearing up the roads. These dirty old men would always try to look under our skirts and flirt with us. I was always trying to hold on to my dress or skirt so they could not look under as we passed by. It would have been so much more modest and comfortable if we could have worn feminine pants suits. Winters were especially bad as we were freezing our legs off. I refuse to wear white shirts now. I feel why should I, I’m not a Puritan. The LDS faith is so Puritanical at times; dark colors and white shirts. At least the Amish can have beards. I keep a goatee. The comment I got was: iIs that a Sigmund Freud look? My response was: “No it is a George Albert Smith look”. I remember visiting a ward in Berkeley, California and the the Bishop had a full beard. I was like, Right on, man. When I wear a sweater, I don’t wear a tie. I don’t like wearing ties, but I realize one day out of the week isn’t gonna kill me. Hopefully, the dress code at church as well as for Elders get a little lax, but I don’t think it will happen anytime soon. jamison wrote:I refuse to wear white shirts now. I feel why should I, I’m not a Puritan… I keep a goatee. The comment I got was: iIs that a Sigmund Freud look? My response was: “No it is a George Albert Smith look”.
Well, well, well. I guess you’re alright after all, “brother.” I’m glad we finally have some common ground to build on.
🙂 Quote:How many professions wear only white shirts and ties? I’m not sure even lawyers and politicians wear a white shirt everyday?
I’ll respond to this one. I am a doctor. I am on the city council and am Mayor Pro Tem in our city, so I guess that qualifies me as a politician. I have been elders quorum president, YM president multiple times. Taught primary, Sunday School, and been in the bishopric. I did concede to the white shirt and tie while in the bishopric, but other than that have never worn a white shirt or tie to church, to work, or to city council meetings. Oh yeah, except for my mission time, my hair has always been longer than shoulder length, and I have a beard and mustache. Believe it or not, none of that has made me a better or worse Doctor, Politician, EQP, Bishopric Counselor, etc. It was and is merely my style preference. I apologize for not getting the quote formatted right. This is only my second post.
I fixed the quote format. It’s cool. and, AMEN to the fact that not wearing a white shirt and tie didn’t change your performance level in your callings.
Quote:How many professions wear only white shirts and ties? I’m not sure even lawyers and politicians wear a white shirt everyday?
Not technically a profession, but…fencers?
Well, you sold me Sam. I guess I need the white shirt. 🙂 I think the white shirt and tie has huge spiritual benefits. I did an experiment where I randomly assigned people to groups. One group wore blue shirts, one wore white, and the control group was told to dress however they pleased. One in this group wore a kilt and flip flops. Then they were sent into classroom teaching situations in multiple wards. We used the Spiritual Presence diagnotistic scale to measure the presence of the spirit in the various classrooms by surveying class members. All students were also tested for their spiritual sensitivity using the Spiritual Sensitivity scale — a heavily validated instrument. A statistical test indicated that none of the groups differed in their overall social sensitivity. However, the blue shirt group had a higher level of intelligence and depth characteristics in their classroom responses. This was attributed to a high proportion of StayLDS members in the blue shirt group.
Interesting results. The white shirt group was able to achieve substantially higher scores on the Spiritual Presence scale through their teaching, with an unusually high number of Resurrected Being visits being reported — some captured on video (regrettably, the resurrected beings demanded the videos be returned to an undisclosed location for burial, so we were not able to verify this ourselves, however, 8 people wrote a statement indicating they were witnesses). The blue shirt group and the control group reported significantly lower levels on the Spiritual Presence scale.
Therfore, we concluded that a white shirt is essential for promoting spirituality at Church.
Dawning, S., (2009)
The impact of white shirts on classroom spirituality. The Journal of Scientific Religion, 43 (1),1-206.
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