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Found an early copy of Mormon Doctrine at a book sale. Flipped it on eBay for about $50. Maybe if I hold on to my copy of MF for a while it will rise in value.
😈 Mormon Doctrine —As a teen, I thought it was heresy. I could never figure out why it was so popular.
Miracle of Forgiveness —I couldn’t get past page 2.
I used to feel so much guilt over this .. Now I feel validation. It a much nicer feeling.
For so many years, Spencer W. Kimball was at the top of my list of favorite prophets — for the simple reason that it was during his administration that the priesthood was made available to Black men. I just thought that set him apart from all of his predecessors. My daughter had “sexual morality issues” (this was about 15 years ago) and went to talk to the bishop (without mentioning anything to me about why). I’m pretty sure he sent her home with the book. I’d never read it (still haven’t), but when I glanced through it, expecting a very uplifting and encouraging message about forgiveness, I was pretty disappointed — and surprised, because it didn’t sound like the same man I thought I knew. I don’t know where my daughter got the idea — whether it was from his book, from her talk with the bishop, or from a seminary or Young Women’s teacher — but when she finally told me she was sleeping with her boyfriend, she was firmly convinced that this was the “unforgivable sin.” She’s now 33 and completely inactive. Nothing I said to her made a difference. Apparently someone whose opinion she trusted more than mine had convinced her of her eternal unworthiness in God’s eyes. nibbler wrote:DarkJedi wrote:I didn’t realize it was available on the Gospel Library app, but also took a quick look and couldn’t find it.
Hmm.
:think: I remember downloading Jesus the Christ and some other books in the app, I thought that was one of them. I’ll have to check my tablet when I get home. I might have gone crazy.
Edit: It’s not in the gospel library app. So much for memory.
You might have seen both of those books in the Deseret Book app.When I was a YW, we took the injunction from Miracle of Forgiveness very very seriously that if we were ever sexually assaulted we should die rather than “allow” ourselves to be violated. The easy take away is that women are only of value if they have their hymen intact. hawkgrrrl wrote:When I was a YW, we took the injunction from Miracle of Forgiveness very very seriously that if we were ever sexually assaulted we should die rather than “allow” ourselves to be violated. The easy take away is that women are only of value if they have their hymen intact.
The thought of how this affected (affects?) women that grew up with this makes me sick.But it seems that for many women they don’t seem to see it this way. Why is that? Do they just “buy into it” and if they keep “clean” until marriage then they are better than others – and who cares about the women that are raped as they were warned? I know it was a different time, but it just makes me sick. It sounds so warped and out of balance with the gospel.
Funny. But I have only good memories of that book. Two of the chapters in Miracle of Forgiveness (18 and 19 in my copy) focus on forgiving others. The stories that President Kimball relates in those chapters are quite powerful. As I grew older, I went back to those chapters again and again particularly when I was faced with personal situations where I needed to forgive family members for thoughtless behaviors on their part. (And if you knew my extended family, you would know that this is kind of a constant thing with them). Those ideas have shaped my character and reaction to the world in very real ways. I can see how damaging some of President Kimball’s other notions may have been and feel for anyone who suffered as a result. But just to provide an alternative opinion, for me the Miracle of Forgiveness taught me, not how and when to repent of my sins, but how to move past the sins and offenses of others. For that part, I’ll always be grateful.
LookingHard wrote:But it seems that for many women they don’t seem to see it this way. Why is that? Do they just “buy into it” and if they keep “clean” until marriage then they are better than others – and who cares about the women that are raped as they were warned?
Gerald wrote:Funny. But I have only good memories of that book. Two of the chapters in Miracle of Forgiveness (18 and 19 in my copy) focus on forgiving others. The stories that President Kimball relates in those chapters are quite powerful. As I grew older, I went back to those chapters again and again particularly when I was faced with personal situations where I needed to forgive family members for thoughtless behaviors on their part. (And if you knew my extended family, you would know that this is kind of a constant thing with them). Those ideas have shaped my character and reaction to the world in very real ways.
I know that I too had read the book and did not have a hard time with it. I believe the reason for this is two fold: 1) I was not having difficulty with any of the more major sins being discussed and condemned, and 2) I personally am not prone to scrupulosity (my wife claims that I justify whatever course of action I may pursue – I do not think she means this to be a compliment).
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