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“That’s why my (wife) and I get massages” from each other – although the relaxation only lasts for a while. 😯 
You’re right, godlives, everything you say I remember saying to myself previously. godlives wrote:But here’s the thing, now that I’ve stopped I want it.
Like I said before, everything has an emotional component. I think you have an interesting opportunity to explore where this is coming from. Know that you can’t control your thoughts and/or feelings but you can own them, examine them and discover their genesis. And then learn from them. Learn about yourself, what your perspective is, why you think the way you do, why you feel the way you do in the great process of life. And recognize that this is what life is: a journey of learning through exploration both internal and external.
swimordie wrote:Know that you can’t control your thoughts and/or feelings but you can own them, examine them and discover their genesis. And then learn from them. Learn about yourself, what your perspective is, why you think the way you do, why you feel the way you do in the great process of life. And recognize that this is what life is: a journey of learning through exploration both internal and external.
Well said, Swim…although I try to control my thoughts…I don’t know how successful I am, but I try.That reminds me of a quote I heard (can’t remember if I got it from this site or where I heard it…)
Quote:You can close your eyes to what you don’t want to see, but you can’t close your heart from what you want to feel.
I think if you do the self-examination as Swim described, it can help you change your heart, and drive some things out or lessen their importance in your heart, but like Hawkgrrrl stated, once something is done, it can remain inside as something to be dealt with for a long time. Hearts can be changed, but it is not as easy as just turning it off. It takes something else to replace your temptations within your heart, I think.
That is why when the pat answers are given for someone in crisis to simply “read, go to church, and pray” – they don’t lead to immediate results…it isn’t that simple. But with vigor and effort, those faithful actions may lead to something that may lead to a change of heart. There are other things that can lead to a change of heart also…so that advice isn’t invalid, but it isn’t that simple either.
godlives, as I reread your posts…to me it seems the alcohol really isn’t a big deal to you, from what I hear. It is where your heart is on whether it matters or not, coupled with how the church leaders make you feel about it. The alcohol is just the event or situation. The issue is separate from that specific event or situation. It is rooted in something deeper that swimordie touched on.
Quote:Like I said before, everything has an emotional component. I think you have an interesting opportunity to explore where this is coming from.
I recognize that my issues are emotionally based. I’m sure the Bishop is much more concerned about my emotions then the sip of alcohol. If drinking wasn’t currently tied to my state of mind, I don’t think I would worry about the church’s position on this. But that is not the case. Over time I will figure this all out.
I have enjoyed going to other church’s as well. I don’t see myself quitting this for a while. I have found it very fulfilling to learn from others. I find many more similarities then differences that I see no reason to jump ship. There is no reason to trade if its not trading UP.
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