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Great stuff Ray – thanks. NotSure2008 wrote:cwald wrote:NotSure2008 wrote:This seems silly…)
I don’t think so. It shows the evolution of the church, and gives hope that the apostles are, like the rest of the church membership, adapting to the times. THE CULTURE IS CHANGING. The mere fact that 6 did not serve missions is astonishing! Why didn’t they? Perhaps they are “human” after all? And when you compare family sizes —- it appears that the younger half of the apostles are PERHAPS a lot more like my generation than my fathers generation — which means they may be able to see things, and understand things like my generation does? That gives me hope that change will happen.
No I meant my thought was silly ie that I am pleased that they are all well educated and intellectual people. I think the whole idea of showing this is great!
Got it.
Old-Timer wrote:I have no idea about Elder Perry.
I remember reading an article in the Logan Herald Journal once about Elder Perry’s family. IIRC, his father was also a lawyer who ran a successful law practice in Cache Valley for many years. I’m pretty sure that Elder Perry grew up in a fairly well-to-do environment.
Quote:Elder Nelson studied at LDS Business College while in his mid-teens. He was academically brilliant, but there is no indication that his family was well-off. I just don’t know.
According to Grandpa Bill’s GA pages, Elder Nelson’s father owned an advertising agency, but from the article it’s not clear how successful he was. The article mentioned Elder Nelson worked part-time at several jobs as a teenager, so if his parents were well-off, they apparently didn’t spoil him.
Quote:Elder Cook married his high school sweetheart and graduated from Standford Law School. Don’t know his family background.
According to his obituary, Elder Cook’s father Vernon was a fairly prominent businessman in Cache Valley. He owned several businesses, including a couple of car dealerships. He was also a pilot and owned several planes, and he was elected to the Logan City Council a couple of times. So I would imagine Elder Cook grew up fairly well-to-do.
Quote:I don’t know Elder Anderson’s family background.
According to the DesNews article when he was ordained an apostle, he was born in Logan while his parents were attending USU. Once they graduated, his father worked as a teacher in Colorado for a short time, then moved to Idaho and became a dairy farmer. So it doesn’t seem like Elder Andersen had much.A couple of other tidbits you might find interesting:
1. The number of Q15 who did undergraduate work at BYU is actually higher than it used to be. There used to only be two.
2. While the number of BYU alums is increasing, the number of USU alums has been steady at 3 for a long time. Quentin L. Cook helped preserve the status quo after the passing of David B. Haight. However, the other two are Boyd K. Packer and L. Tom Perry, and it remains to be seen how well the Aggies are represented after they pass on in a few years (or sooner).
3. D. Todd Christofferson’s brother is openly gay, and apparently they have a close relationship.
4. In addition to being a gifted surgeon, apparently Elder Nelson is also a gifted musician. He plays the organ when the Q12 meet in the temple.
5. Elder Nelson’s current wife Wendy is a retired college professor who was single until she married him.
Regarding serving missions, we need to remember that our current culture of ‘every young man should serve a mission’ started with President Kimball in the 1970s. Prior to that, it was highly encouraged, but did not carry the stigma that it does now. Oh for the days. . . . It’s pretty clear that the war was a big reason for the low missionary participation. I’m guessing if you looked at the seventy, you would find a younger set of men with a higher mission rate.
Quote:It’s pretty clear that the war was a big reason for the low missionary participation. I’m guessing if you looked at the seventy, you would find a younger set of men with a higher mission rate.
WWII maybe, but I suppose Korea and Vietnam must have had an effect too. I think at least one GA fought in Korea, from what I remember.
Quote:It’s particularly embarrassing since I was a History teacher in my former life.
The information is hard to get hold of and scattered about, and short of paying someone to do professional research, I think it is a tough job.
Interesting material though.
My grandfather was Howard Hunter’s bishop. He called Hunter to go on a mission and he turned grandfather down. He wanted to take his band to Japan instead, which he did. Grandfather baptized Hunter’s father and grandfather admired Hunter greatly.
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