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May 14, 2010 at 7:07 am #230018
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GuestI’ll chime in here because I just had a HUGE encounter with the stranglehold that the WoW image has on the church culture. It honestly feels like it is THE defining characteristic of being Mormon to the culture. I apologize for the hyperbole because this experience is so fresh but… that’s honestly how it feels. I mean, when GBH said everyone should stop gambling, including march madness pools, that lasted what… 15 minutes??
Sorry, I feel an unhealthy rant coming on so I’m going to stop. Suffice to say that I feel the culture has defined it’s image to the world around this one single topic. Period.
So, I must respectfully disagree with the previous posters that insinuated that the church may be on the verge of shifting on this… well, not imho.
May 15, 2010 at 12:05 am #230019Anonymous
GuestRix wrote:…I just had my physical last week. I’m healthier than ever! I attribute that to disobeying the “WoW!”
I lost my testimony of the WoW years ago when I tried a low-carb diet and lost weight fairly easily mostly by eating meat for every single meal. If grains and potatoes are so great then I don’t understand why they made me fat. I’m pretty sure that extra weight is much more of a health risk than a cup of coffee in most cases.
May 15, 2010 at 4:46 am #230020Anonymous
GuestQuote:I lost my testimony of the WoW years ago when I tried a low-carb diet and lost weight fairly easily mostly by eating meat for every single meal.
DA, I’m going to type something that is going to sound really weird, not that anyone will be surprised at that.
All I ask is that you not dismiss it out-of-hand and seriously consider the multiple points I am trying to make by the words I am choosing in what I am about to say:
The WofW says to eat meat sparingly, except in times of winter, cold and famine,
and a diet is forced famine, so you lost your testimony of it when you did what it says and it worked for you. May 15, 2010 at 4:03 pm #230021Anonymous
GuestEating meat in winter or famine is just good sense when it comes to farming and stock raising. You thin your herd to save the grain and hay you need to feed cattle and other stock so that you can have a smaller but sustainable number or animals for a longer period. The book “Diet for a Small Planet” has some good information about it. May 15, 2010 at 9:19 pm #230022Anonymous
GuestGBSmith wrote:Eating meat in winter or famine is just good sense when it comes to farming and stock raising. You thin your herd to save the grain and hay you need to feed cattle and other stock so that you can have a smaller but sustainable number or animals for a longer period. The book “Diet for a Small Planet” has some good information about it.
Old-Timer wrote:Quote:I lost my testimony of the WoW years ago when I tried a low-carb diet and lost weight fairly easily mostly by eating meat for every single meal.
DA, I’m going to type something that is going to sound really weird, not that anyone will be surprised at that.
All I ask is that you not dismiss it out-of-hand and seriously consider the multiple points I am trying to make by the words I am choosing in what I am about to say:
The WofW says to eat meat sparingly, except in times of winter, cold and famine,
and a diet is forced famine, so you lost your testimony of it when you did what it says and it worked for you. This is a good point, sometimes people forget the historical context. When I say I lost my testimony of the WoW I don’t mean to say that it was completely uninspired and absurd at the time it was given only that this made me think twice about the way the Church currently teaches it as some kind of universally applicable law given word for word directly by God for our own good. In 1833 most people probably had to do more physical labor and not just sit at a desk all day like me. So they were burning more calories to begin with and many of them probably couldn’t afford to eat lots of meat all the time anyway.
Nowadays there is no such thing as famine for many of us and there is no practical need for winter to affect our diet much. Some TBM literalists might argue that this means we should all be vegetarians now but personally I think that meat or some other protein is always an important part of a balanced diet and too much bread, cereal, pizza, pasta, potatoes, sugar, etc. is not going to cut it for many adults once their metabolism slows down.
May 16, 2010 at 2:04 am #230023Anonymous
GuestI agree, DA – and most people don’t realize that aspect. It also is part of why I’m glad the Church limits the current “official policy” to only the addiction aspect of the WofW.
May 16, 2010 at 4:54 am #230024Anonymous
GuestAdventists developed their health code at about the same time as the WoW and it’s much more stringent as regards advocating vegetarianism. For them it’s a health issue but for LDS the WoW seems less that than that and more a setting apart from the world and obedience standard. That invariably leads to the questions, “Am I healthier not drinking coffee or tea?” And the answer is not really. “Am I happier not drinking coffee or tea?” Again, not really unless you take into account the feeling of your soul not dripping with sin because you did not indulge and are therefore right and justified with the divine. “Am I a better person not drinking coffee or tea?” Probably not really unless you feel that life is not worth living without a low fat grande triple shot soy latte in the morning and that by going without it you’re forging your soul in the crucible of denial. Getting a little deep but you get the picture. -
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