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. Morzen wrote:If you want to stay active in the church for whatever reason, my advice is to “fuhgeddaboutit” and discuss something else.
I thought this was a safe place to discuss our concerns. This happens to be one of my BIG concerns…so why go discuss something else?
Daisy wrote:Morzen wrote:If you want to stay active in the church for whatever reason, my advice is to “fuhgeddaboutit” and discuss something else.
I thought this was a safe place to discuss our concerns. This happens to be one of my BIG concerns…so why go discuss something else?
I don’t think Morzen was talking about your concerns, but rather, the Second Anointing, specifically.Morzen?
So, Daisy, ask away. Besides, even if Morzen can’t discuss it, those of us who haven’t received it can still do so… 
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Daisy wrote:So the question is…why does a woman place her hands on my head and bless me yet she doesn’t have the priesthood to do so?
I do not know if women receive any additional authorization or authority when they are set apart. I suspect that it is largely due to how the endowment and initiatory evolved historically. There is much evidence that women participated in priesthood ordinances early in the church, both within and outside the temple. Obviously the initiatory ordinances are much more comfortable for women when they are performed by other women (particularly how they were performed until recently without the sides of the shield sewn up and having the garment actually placed on you by another person). Over time the church has taken much of the responsibility from women for priesthood ordinances (such as anointings for childbirth), but I suspect the privacy issues of the initiatory have kept women in the initiatory. My wife thinks that with all of the changes in the initiatory, it won’t be long before men perform initiatories for women, which would resolve this question, right?
threadjack I totally wish we still did washing and anointing in preparation for childbirth. I can’t think of a more beautiful way for women to nurture one another and strengthen one another than this.
I feel a little bit ripped off. I have a friend about to deliver any day and just imagine how wonderful it would be to participate in a blessing like this with her.
Maybe it doesn’t make sense for me to feel a sense of loss for something I never had to begin with, but I do.
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Valoel wrote:Euhemerus wrote:I’d like to read these, and I know of some of them but am not sure how to get a hold of them? What do you recommend? Are the sources on the internet sufficient or reliable?
^ That’s a source that I Like. It’s free. Some of the books are better in published paper form though. Some of the digital versions are text-only and lose something (I think) when they don’t have the diagrams or pictures.
Excellent! Thank you for the link.
For anyone interested in the symbolism of using oil, anointing and other such topics, I recommend “Melchizedek and the Mystery of Fire” by Manly P. Hall. http://www.amazon.com/Melchizedek-Mystery-Fire-Adept-Manly/dp/0893148423 Just as a broad overview, oil is symbolic of the organizing principles of the Spirit of God. Vegetable oil (like olive oil) is in fact the end product of plants collecting and concentrating the energy of the sun, the symbol of light and power. When lit, it burns and gives off the light stored within it. So in a way, it is like anointing with fire. This book is more like a pamphlet. I have it, and it was interesting to ponder the ideas.
. When a sister is set apart to serve in the temple (by a member of the Temple Pres), she is given the authority to administer certain specific blessings that are to be memorized, given word perfect and only in the Temple.
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